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Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 11:53 am
by Blindscout
The only thing I can see in the book that would limit it is the fact that it says human only. As far as the reason behind that I can only speculate.

Psyscape makes a few references to them being similar to Psi-Stalkers in that they feed off of PPE.
Perhaps they are a mutant human variant as well, and that was not conveyed in the text as it was with the Psi-Ghosts.

However to counter that is the fact it also references that they are trained to be Slayers instead of becoming the more common Mind Melter. Given that it does not specifically state that they are human mutants and they are trained rather than born that way I really can't see a reason not to allow other races to learn it, it would just end being another house rule.

*edit*

It does also say that they are trained by "elite and secret Psi-Slayer guilds" so the racial restriction looks more like an availability of training issue than an issue of genetic/metaphysical limitation.

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2011 3:13 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Kyra Shadowborn wrote:With most of the Psychic O.C.C's and R.C.C. not being race restricted, (1) why is the Psi-Slayer restricted to Human only?(just wondering if anyone had a reason), cause I'm not necessarily sure I agree with this rule, and if it could be explained why, I might get it.

Any Enlightenment Would Be Greatly Appreciated...Thanks, Kyra

Although Life May Be Meaningless, I Have HOPE in DEATH
Even In DEATH There Is NO Rule But MINE


1) RCC's are race restricted classes. The Dogboy class is an RCC is an example of a race restricted class. (No, PB F'ed up in listing it as an OCC in RUE.)
[Psychic classes such as Mind Melters, Mind Mages, Latent Psychic, are PCC's.]
{yes, PB is Bleeping up their class types by not saying a PCC or a RCC is a PCC or a RCC respectively. And instead of that calling them an OCC. This Frelling bastardization of the class types designations was acknowledged in RUE.}

1.1) The way I understand it is that the Psi-Slayer is a variant of the Psi Stalker. So it is even more restricted then just to humans.

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 2:31 am
by AzathothXy
I beleive one of the members of the Tolkeen council is a Noli Bushman Psi-Slayer.

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Wed Jun 15, 2011 12:46 am
by Grandil
Rogue_Scientist wrote:Meh. Book says they're human only. Anything else is a house-rule.

I hate Psi-Slayers anyways. Stupid, mostly redundant class.

Rogue? Mind Bleeders also? Just guessing.... Have you looked at Psi-Slayers? +1d4+1 to MA/1d4
to ME/all at 4th? I make these adds Cumulative per level past 4th (House Rule) Don't knock House
rules. They be good. Also Psi-Slayers are 1 of the few that actually get Mind Bleeder Powers at low level

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Mon Jun 20, 2011 8:38 pm
by Grandil
Rogue_Scientist wrote:Wait, what? I can't really understand what you're saying there, Grandil.
at 2nd level a Psi-Slayer gets +1d4+1 MA, +1d4 ME. +1 attack, +3 to Initiative, or
+2d6+2 I.S.P. extra reserve; Pick one. Also, the get some special powers: Pick one at 1st: TK Air
Walk-Cool, Sleepwalk, ok, Locate & Track Mark; Totally Cool, & Psi-Dagger; not so cool unless you use it Stealthy..... Are we on the same page, Rogue Scholar? This is PGs 71-73 of Psyscape.
Grandil Sorry for the Typos-I don't have a large Screen.

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Wed Dec 07, 2011 2:09 am
by drewkitty ~..~
Rider wrote:
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:The Dogboy class is an RCC is an example of a race restricted class. (No, PB F'ed up in listing it as an OCC in RUE.)
It's not a total f-up, they're actually a bit of both. Later supplements (like Coalition War Campaign I think) had options for classes Dog Boys could select, didn't it? I could've sworn there was some option at getting a different skill set...

So in that regard, their attributes are the race/RCC and the default skills are the OCC.

PB Has totally Fracked up the class labling system. This goes back to the RMB, RUE just made things worse.

Re: Psi-Slayer

Posted: Thu Dec 08, 2011 3:30 pm
by cornholioprime
Kyra Shadowborn wrote:With most of the Psychic O.C.C's and R.C.C. not being race restricted, why is the Psi-Slayer restricted to Human only?(just wondering if anyone had a reason), cause I'm not necessarily sure I agree with this rule, and if it could be explained why, I might get it.

Any Enlightenment Would Be Greatly Appreciated...Thanks, Kyra

Although Life May Be Meaningless, I Have HOPE in DEATH
Even In DEATH There Is NO Rule But MINE
From the (admittedly poor) wording of the text, the Psi-Slayer appears to be similar to a Psi-Stalker but not directly related to them.

Psi-Slayers are natural PPE Vampires just as Psi-Stalkers are (they have similarly minimal requirements for food and water)...and as such, really do deserve their RCC status, since they cannot of course train somebody to be a PPE Vampire.

The training in the flavor text of the RCC implies that it is the other Mind Melter-like skills this subspecies seems to possess innately which are sharpened, not that they can 'train' psychic powers into a willing participant.
It would seem as if they all (Psi-Slayers) potentially have that range of powers but won't ever be anything other than a 'feral' Psi-Slayer with only a handful of instinctive capabilities (and perhaps an ever-present hunger that regular food and drink can never satisfy) unless they are trained.