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Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 6:03 pm
by Snake Eyes
I'm going to be running a Heroes Unlimited game soon and i need your GM ideas regarding explosives vs A.R.
I was going to rule that explosives reduce the A.R. of armor by half, and if i still rolled below the A.R. it would still do half damage.....
Give me your ideas please

Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sun Jan 20, 2013 7:30 pm
by Grell
I'd just put it straight to the armor's S.D.C. and call it a day, unless the explosive attack roll was directed at said character.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 10:43 am
by JuliusCreed
Snake Eyes wrote:I'm going to be running a Heroes Unlimited game soon and i need your GM ideas regarding explosives vs A.R.
I was going to rule that explosives reduce the A.R. of armor by half, and if i still rolled below the A.R. it would still do half damage.....
Give me your ideas please

No canon answer available at the moment as my books aren't with me, but if memory serves, explosives don't roll against AR at all, damaging EVERYTHING within their area of effect.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 3:58 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
This is one of the Things I wish could be expanded....or to put all the AR rules in One

spot.
If there is no strike roll then AR's are irrelevant. Is one way to read the text.
I agree with JC that they damage everything in the AoE. However, unless there is something that modifies things.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Mon Jan 21, 2013 4:32 pm
by Snake Eyes
Thanks guys, i'll keep those points in mind

Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:12 pm
by Icefalcon
I always rule that explosives ignore A.R. and that it also damages the SDC of the armor accordingly.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 1:36 pm
by Snake Eyes
Icefalcon wrote:I always rule that explosives ignore A.R. and that it also damages the SDC of the armor accordingly.
Good point....
Another question came up while NPCs for my HU game, the
Microjet ammo in AU, when they strike a target they explode (18" blast), plus it doesn't specify whether they ignore the target's A.R. (AU pg 180). Would you rule that these rounds ignore A.R.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 2:36 pm
by Icefalcon
Snake Eyes wrote:Icefalcon wrote:I always rule that explosives ignore A.R. and that it also damages the SDC of the armor accordingly.
Good point....
Another question came up while NPCs for my HU game, the
Microjet ammo in AU, when they strike a target they explode (18" blast), plus it doesn't specify whether they ignore the target's A.R. (AU pg 180). Would you rule that these rounds ignore A.R.
This is a little more tricky to deal with. First the explosive is contained in a very small round as opposed to being an explosive first. The thing is, most damage from an explosion is derived from the concussive force of the blast. For something like this, I might determine that A.R. is half and the explosive quality adds a knockdown component on top of the damage it delivers. My reason on the half A.R. is that the
bullet actually has to impact
first before the explosion happens. Otherwise, I would be open to anything that sounds better.
Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sat Jan 26, 2013 5:41 pm
by Snake Eyes
Icefalcon wrote:Snake Eyes wrote:Icefalcon wrote:I always rule that explosives ignore A.R. and that it also damages the SDC of the armor accordingly.
Good point....
Another question came up while NPCs for my HU game, the
Microjet ammo in AU, when they strike a target they explode (18" blast), plus it doesn't specify whether they ignore the target's A.R. (AU pg 180). Would you rule that these rounds ignore A.R.
This is a little more tricky to deal with. First the explosive is contained in a very small round as opposed to being an explosive first. The thing is, most damage from an explosion is derived from the concussive force of the blast. For something like this, I might determine that A.R. is half and the explosive quality adds a knockdown component on top of the damage it delivers. My reason on the half A.R. is that the
bullet actually has to impact
first before the explosion happens. Otherwise, I would be open to anything that sounds better.
Ah, good point, thanks for that answer, that'll work perfectly in my next game

Re: Need GM input on Explosives vs A.R.
Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2013 11:32 pm
by Icefalcon
Snake Eyes wrote:Icefalcon wrote:Snake Eyes wrote:Icefalcon wrote:I always rule that explosives ignore A.R. and that it also damages the SDC of the armor accordingly.
Good point....
Another question came up while NPCs for my HU game, the
Microjet ammo in AU, when they strike a target they explode (18" blast), plus it doesn't specify whether they ignore the target's A.R. (AU pg 180). Would you rule that these rounds ignore A.R.
This is a little more tricky to deal with. First the explosive is contained in a very small round as opposed to being an explosive first. The thing is, most damage from an explosion is derived from the concussive force of the blast. For something like this, I might determine that A.R. is half and the explosive quality adds a knockdown component on top of the damage it delivers. My reason on the half A.R. is that the
bullet actually has to impact
first before the explosion happens. Otherwise, I would be open to anything that sounds better.
Ah, good point, thanks for that answer, that'll work perfectly in my next game

Glad to be of help.