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List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 7:56 am
by MaxxSterling
So if a character is "Impervious to All Energy Attacks", what all does that include?

I'd assume:
Electricity
Lasers
Particle Beam
Plasma
Ion

However, is there a list in a book somewhere that specifies this? I'm not seeing one that spells it out.

Thanks.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 9:05 am
by Killer Cyborg
There isn't any list in any book that I'm aware of.
There are a number of generic/unspecified energies in addition to what you list, though.
Stuff like Energy Expulsion: Energy from HU, magic energies such as whatever an Energy Bolt is made of, etc.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 12:22 pm
by MaxxSterling
See, that raises even more questions... So "Impervious to All Energy Attacks," taking that literally would include magic, superpowers, Neural Maces, Psi-Swords, phase swords, and the like, while I'd personally think it was referring to more like just lasers and things... I'd like to see if anyone else has any input, specifically I'm referring to the Invulnerability spell. Answers from Canon are appreciated.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:52 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Should read "Directed Energy Attacks", since it would not protect from plasma/napalm warheads.
And "Energy" to the list since there are super powers that use that word to defined their Energy Expulsion type.
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And the important question due to the different types of imp. vs Energy there are.....
Where is the "Impervious to All Energy Attacks" gotten from?

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 1:59 pm
by MaxxSterling
The description for the invulnerability spell says Impervious from several things, including "all" energy attacks. The way I'd take that, it includes plasma missiles, grenades as well. I mean it doesn't make sense (go figure, right) but I'd take it literally. That's why I was hoping to have some sort of canon reference that listed what this actually covered. Thanks.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 2:17 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
While I would agree, if using the dictionary definition of the word Plasma, that it is an energy based attack.

But with the Plasma/napalm is a "you are splatted with a burning substance" attack.
(note: I am being very :crane: specific in my wording.)

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Since it is the magic invulnerability spell, I would include the magic & Psi energy attacks.

Psi Sword aspect: since it is Both a Physical attack and Psi-Energy attack it put it in "The GM decides" limbo.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Mon Mar 18, 2013 5:02 pm
by Killer Cyborg
MaxxSterling wrote:See, that raises even more questions... So "Impervious to All Energy Attacks," taking that literally would include magic, superpowers, Neural Maces, Psi-Swords, phase swords, and the like, while I'd personally think it was referring to more like just lasers and things... I'd like to see if anyone else has any input, specifically I'm referring to the Invulnerability spell. Answers from Canon are appreciated.


It doesn't refer to kinetic attacks, or non-physical attacks like psychic energy.

Neural Maces would be ineffective, but phase swords would work.
Psi-Swords seem to work on everything. They're a special case.
Vibro-blades could be argued to be ineffective, because they're surrounded by a "high-frequency energy field," but canon seems to treat them as physical attacks, not energy attacks.

Magic energy attacks, like fireballs, lightning bolts, etc. would not cause damage, but magical physical attacks, such as Throwing Stones, etc., would cause damage.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:42 am
by Talavar
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:While I would agree, if using the dictionary definition of the word Plasma, that it is an energy based attack.

But with the Plasma/napalm is a "you are splatted with a burning substance" attack.
(note: I am being very :crane: specific in my wording.)

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Since it is the magic invulnerability spell, I would include the magic & Psi energy attacks.

Psi Sword aspect: since it is Both a Physical attack and Psi-Energy attack it put it in "The GM decides" limbo.


Even plasma/napalm shouldn't hurt you - you'd be covered in the burning substance/goop, but because you're immune to fire as part of being impervious to energy, the goop would just burn until it had expended itself, without any harm to caster/other method of being impervious to energy haver.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 7:43 pm
by Glistam
"Copy Energy Pattern," a Major super power from Powers Unlimited 3 (page 53), offers a list of energy types: Electricity, Energy (a catch-all both for generic energy and for energy types they failed to list), Fire/Flame/Lava/Heat, Lasers, Magic, Microwaves, Particle Beam, Plasma, Psionics, Radiation, Shadow.


It then notes that Kinetic energy, electromagnetism, sound and cold are not forms of energy that the power can copy.

It seems reasonable that all of those, with the exception of kinetic-type attacks (since they are specifically excluded), would be included in the Impervious to Energy spell

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 10:07 pm
by MaxxSterling
Thanks, I think that points us in the right direction. Although, obviously, some of those are not what I'd throw on the list... Like lava...

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Tue Mar 19, 2013 11:40 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Heat is considered an energy attack.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 5:24 pm
by Natasha
MaxxSterling wrote:So if a character is "Impervious to All Energy Attacks", what all does that include?

I'd assume:
Electricity
Lasers
Particle Beam
Plasma
Ion

However, is there a list in a book somewhere that specifies this? I'm not seeing one that spells it out.

Thanks.

Just thought I would point out that microwaves are electromagnetic radiation and if heat or particle beams are energy attacks, then other kinetic attacks should be included. In other words, you will just have to make it up for yourself given the absolutely unworkable definition of “energy” found in the books.

Re: List of Energy Based Attacks?

Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2013 6:25 pm
by eliakon
my personal take?
Radient Energy = Energy Attack
nonRadient Energy Transfer (ie kinetics) = Physical Attack
as always, your milage may vary