Green Blood
Moderators: Immortals, Supreme Beings, Old Ones
- drewkitty ~..~
- Monk
- Posts: 17782
- Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
- Location: Eastvale, calif
- Contact:
Green Blood
I was listening to the Star Talk podcast with the guest John Hodgman and this little trivia bit came up.
Lobsters have green blood because they have copper based hemoglobin (Hemocyanin).
Invid have green blood.
Vulcans have green blood.
Lobsters have green blood because they have copper based hemoglobin (Hemocyanin).
Invid have green blood.
Vulcans have green blood.
May you be blessed with the ability to change course when you are off the mark.
Each question should be give the canon answer 1st, then you can proclaim your house rules.
Reading and writing (literacy) is how people on BBS interact.
Each question should be give the canon answer 1st, then you can proclaim your house rules.
Reading and writing (literacy) is how people on BBS interact.
- taalismn
- Priest
- Posts: 49000
- Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:19 pm
- Location: Somewhere between Heaven, Hell, and New England
Re: Green Blood
It failed to honor my request for tacos, so I'm going with 'No'.
The color may be the same, but I'd argue there's enough biochemical differences that transfusions would NOT be viable(or healthy).
Now admittedly, that also means that Sera and Ariel should be infertile with regards to their human spouses, but I'd allow for Invid genetic alchemy and flexibility on that one, perhaps even subconscious alteration of their bodies to be viable in carrying hybrid children to term.
The color may be the same, but I'd argue there's enough biochemical differences that transfusions would NOT be viable(or healthy).
Now admittedly, that also means that Sera and Ariel should be infertile with regards to their human spouses, but I'd allow for Invid genetic alchemy and flexibility on that one, perhaps even subconscious alteration of their bodies to be viable in carrying hybrid children to term.
-------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
- glitterboy2098
- Rifts® Trivia Master
- Posts: 13596
- Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:37 pm
- Location: Missouri
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
IMO, the greenblood could also be due to other chemicals in the blood (like say protoculture), while using Iron based molecules for the oxygen carrying cells.
Author of Rifts: Deep Frontier (Rifter 70)
Author of Rifts:Scandinavia (current project)

* All fantasy should have a solid base in reality.
* Good sense about trivialities is better than nonsense about things that matter.
-Max Beerbohm
Visit my Website
Author of Rifts:Scandinavia (current project)

* All fantasy should have a solid base in reality.
* Good sense about trivialities is better than nonsense about things that matter.
-Max Beerbohm
Visit my Website
- taalismn
- Priest
- Posts: 49000
- Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:19 pm
- Location: Somewhere between Heaven, Hell, and New England
Re: Green Blood
glitterboy2098 wrote:IMO, the greenblood could also be due to other chemicals in the blood (like say protoculture), while using Iron based molecules for the oxygen carrying cells.
Phytochemicals?

-------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
Re: Green Blood
Robotech has crossover from hardcore sci-fi to sci-fantasy genre with Sera pregnant with Lancer's baby. Green blood and red blood .... homo sapiens invida.
Waitaminute .... didn't in Star Trek that green blooded Vulcans successfully mated with red blooded humans?
Well, if that is the case, humans & Solugi humanoids are genetically compatible indeed (well, Zor did bang the Regess .... the whole damn intergalactic wars started when Zor cannot seems to keep his hands on the Queen Slug).
Waitaminute .... didn't in Star Trek that green blooded Vulcans successfully mated with red blooded humans?
Well, if that is the case, humans & Solugi humanoids are genetically compatible indeed (well, Zor did bang the Regess .... the whole damn intergalactic wars started when Zor cannot seems to keep his hands on the Queen Slug).
- Rabid Southern Cross Fan
- Champion
- Posts: 2639
- Joined: Thu May 08, 2003 9:17 pm
- Location: Monument City, UEF HQ
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
Tacos...definitely tacos....

- taalismn
- Priest
- Posts: 49000
- Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:19 pm
- Location: Somewhere between Heaven, Hell, and New England
Re: Green Blood
Protoculture wrote:Robotech has crossover from hardcore sci-fi to sci-fantasy genre with Sera pregnant with Lancer's baby. Green blood and red blood .... homo sapiens invida.
Waitaminute .... didn't in Star Trek that green blooded Vulcans successfully mated with red blooded humans?
).
Depending on the sources, Amanda may have been impregnated artificially, but delivered naturally(and probably with a Science Academy's worth of high-falutin' lab equipment and Vulcan medical specialists just outside camera-shot in that rather rough-looking 'traditional' birthing chamber). The well-intentioned, if poorly executed, 'Enterprise' featured a lab-created hybrid child late in its run, but the resident miracle worker Dr. Phloxx figures out(and comments) that the work and methodology was 'too early' and the child dies of complications.
Invid-Human hybrids are most likely possible due to the very adaptive nature of Invid physiology, even without the supervision of the Regis as goddess-on-hand...or, you can ascribe it to the more esoteric properties of Protoculture/Flower of Life.

-------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
- drewkitty ~..~
- Monk
- Posts: 17782
- Joined: Sat Sep 30, 2000 1:01 am
- Location: Eastvale, calif
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
And that the regis did incorporate human DNA into the princes and princess' she made on earth.
May you be blessed with the ability to change course when you are off the mark.
Each question should be give the canon answer 1st, then you can proclaim your house rules.
Reading and writing (literacy) is how people on BBS interact.
Each question should be give the canon answer 1st, then you can proclaim your house rules.
Reading and writing (literacy) is how people on BBS interact.
Re: Green Blood
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:And that the regis did incorporate human DNA into the princes and princess' she made on earth.
According to the books, yes.
- Colonel Wolfe
- Knight
- Posts: 4558
- Joined: Sat May 15, 2004 11:37 pm
- Comment: Poster's making baseless accusations of illegal actions go on the Foe list...
- Location: Tampa FL
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
do you mean the Del-ray novels? or the Palladium RPG books?SRoss wrote:drewkitty ~..~ wrote:And that the regis did incorporate human DNA into the princes and princess' she made on earth.
According to the books, yes.
Give another Gamer a hand up with his education.
"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

Re: Green Blood
Colonel Wolfe wrote:do you mean the Del-ray novels? or the Palladium RPG books?SRoss wrote:drewkitty ~..~ wrote:And that the regis did incorporate human DNA into the princes and princess' she made on earth.
According to the books, yes.
That would be the Del-Rey books so take that as you will.
- Colonel Wolfe
- Knight
- Posts: 4558
- Joined: Sat May 15, 2004 11:37 pm
- Comment: Poster's making baseless accusations of illegal actions go on the Foe list...
- Location: Tampa FL
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
SRoss wrote: That would be the Del-Rey books so take that as you will.
yeah, I have a shelf Full of Robotech "books"... not a single one of the novels thou... so you can see why i'd need to ask.
Give another Gamer a hand up with his education.
"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

Re: Green Blood
Colonel Wolfe wrote:SRoss wrote: That would be the Del-Rey books so take that as you will.
yeah, I have a shelf Full of Robotech "books"... not a single one of the novels thou... so you can see why I'd need to ask.
Well actually the book in question only stated the Regis used human DNA to create Ariel. They sort of imply that it was Marlene's DNA. A nice trick given how she died. However, Tommy doesn't consider the books cannon, so as I said take that as you will.
- glitterboy2098
- Rifts® Trivia Master
- Posts: 13596
- Joined: Wed Aug 06, 2003 3:37 pm
- Location: Missouri
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
well, i can believe that the Regis used human DNA in creating the human-form invid. why reinvent the inventor of the wheel?
the invasion video game is only psuedo canon but that had an exact copy of a UEEF soldier, so the possibility of her making exact copy infiltrators is viable.
certainly i could see her making exact copies as a "prototype". i don't think marlene was the blueprint for Ariel (honestly, they don't look that much alike.. and pretty sure Scott fell for Ariel because of emotional not appearance stuff) but i could see her being based on someone else. Corg and Sera though i'd imagine were originals, not copies.
the invasion video game is only psuedo canon but that had an exact copy of a UEEF soldier, so the possibility of her making exact copy infiltrators is viable.
certainly i could see her making exact copies as a "prototype". i don't think marlene was the blueprint for Ariel (honestly, they don't look that much alike.. and pretty sure Scott fell for Ariel because of emotional not appearance stuff) but i could see her being based on someone else. Corg and Sera though i'd imagine were originals, not copies.
Author of Rifts: Deep Frontier (Rifter 70)
Author of Rifts:Scandinavia (current project)

* All fantasy should have a solid base in reality.
* Good sense about trivialities is better than nonsense about things that matter.
-Max Beerbohm
Visit my Website
Author of Rifts:Scandinavia (current project)

* All fantasy should have a solid base in reality.
* Good sense about trivialities is better than nonsense about things that matter.
-Max Beerbohm
Visit my Website
- Colonel Wolfe
- Knight
- Posts: 4558
- Joined: Sat May 15, 2004 11:37 pm
- Comment: Poster's making baseless accusations of illegal actions go on the Foe list...
- Location: Tampa FL
- Contact:
Re: Green Blood
I had ran with an Idea that when Scott was shot down by Corg, he died, but Ariel used her "invid powers" to make an exact duplicate of him down to his memories...glitterboy2098 wrote:well, i can believe that the Regis used human DNA in creating the human-form invid. why reinvent the inventor of the wheel?
the invasion video game is only psuedo canon but that had an exact copy of a UEEF soldier, so the possibility of her making exact copy infiltrators is viable.
Give another Gamer a hand up with his education.
"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

"By no means am I an expert on Southern Cross (I cordially detest the series)"-Seto
"Truth is determined by the evidence, not some nonexistent seniority system."-Seto

- taalismn
- Priest
- Posts: 49000
- Joined: Tue Sep 02, 2003 8:19 pm
- Location: Somewhere between Heaven, Hell, and New England
Re: Green Blood
Colonel Wolfe wrote:I had ran with an Idea that when Scott was shot down by Corg, he died, but Ariel used her "invid powers" to make an exact duplicate of him down to his memories...glitterboy2098 wrote:well, i can believe that the Regis used human DNA in creating the human-form invid. why reinvent the inventor of the wheel?
the invasion video game is only psuedo canon but that had an exact copy of a UEEF soldier, so the possibility of her making exact copy infiltrators is viable.
"I can revive him!"
BXARPPPP!!!
"Opps.....ah, I can RECONSTRUCT him! Yeah, that's the ticket!"
-------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------
"Trouble rather the Tiger in his Lair,
Than the Sage among his Books,
For all the Empires and Kingdoms,
The Armies and Works that you hold Dear,
Are to him but the Playthings of the Moment,
To be turned over with the Flick of a Finger,
And the Turning of a Page"
--------Rudyard Kipling
------------