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In Rifts, are Gargoyles effectively immune to Lasers and Plasma? I notice they're 'immune to heat'...

Jerell wrote:In Rifts, are Gargoyles effectively immune to Lasers and Plasma? I notice they're 'immune to heat'...

I've noticed this very thing a lot in Rifts and Palladium Fantasy, as being immune or resistant (1/2 damage) to fire & heat is a very common natural ability for many supernatural and magical creatures. I've also noticed that for some reason if a creature is immune or resistant to plasma it will list it separately. This leads me to believe that for some reason lasers and plasma (and similar type of attacks) is not included in this blanket immunity or resistance, despite real world physic.

They aren't immune to the lasers or plasmas direct impact. just the heat they geneerate. the Cellular damage still seems to affect them. Same with other heat causing energies. the direct damage hurts them just the heat based after effects and fire would not harm them.

Do not assume real world physics is at play. Unless otherwise stated Plasma weapons are not included as part of most D-Bees immunities to fire.

Kinda what I figured after looking at what Triax uses as weapons. Fair amount of lasers, no way they'd use them if Gargoyles weren't effected by them.

Lasers are "Energy weapons" as per the PB lexicon.
(Which means they are not affected but heat-fire immunities.)

with lasers the heat is a byproduct of the impact of photons on the target.. true weaponized lasers are going to do more damage through the impact of their photons on a target than by the heat that impact creates. (right now IRL we haven't figured out how to make lasers that potent yet, so we rely on 'burning' via heat transfer since we know we can do that, and that requires weaker lasers. takes lots longer though.)

glitterboy2098 wrote:with lasers the heat is a byproduct of the impact of photons on the target.. true weaponized lasers are going to do more damage through the impact of their photons on a target than by the heat that impact creates. (right now IRL we haven't figured out how to make lasers that potent yet, so we rely on 'burning' via heat transfer since we know we can do that, and that requires weaker lasers. takes lots longer though.)

I'm curious how you think that, given the amount of damage an individual photon can do is pretty much fixed and they rarely knock off parts of the atoms they hit, or that you think somehow that the burning aspect of a laser doesn't constitute weapon status and somehow unless they're not really a weapon until they hit like a bullet instead of burning like a laser.

I don't see how being immune to fire is all that good anyway. More people die from suffocation than from burns when it comes to fire.