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Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 6:45 pm
by TheElf
I know this forum appreciates ASC love. Soak it up!

http://leelf.deviantart.com/art/ROBOTEC ... 1385246614

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 8:06 pm
by taalismn
Fantastic as always. 8)

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 9:18 pm
by Seto Kaiba
TheElf wrote:I know this forum appreciates ASC love. Soak it up!

http://leelf.deviantart.com/art/ROBOTEC ... 1385246614

Nicely done on the Spartas... though Jeanne/Dana's pose looks more than a little stiff and awkward. Like one of those poses department store mannequins come in that nobody could comfortably hold for more than a minute or two.

(IMO, replacing Jeanne/Dana with a department store mannequin would've been a huge improvement... the mannequin would be infinitely more tolerable by the simple virtue of being unable to speak. YMMV, naturally.)

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:33 pm
by Tiree
Didn't the S Model Spartas have little ports on the head?

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 10:41 pm
by jaymz
Excellent as usual though......the scale of the Spartas could be better :D

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:03 pm
by TheElf
jaymz wrote:Excellent as usual though......the scale of the Spartas could be better :D


The Spartas and Dana aren't intended to be to scale. ;)

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sat Nov 23, 2013 11:06 pm
by jaymz
TheElf wrote:
jaymz wrote:Excellent as usual though......the scale of the Spartas could be better :D


The Spartas and Dana aren't intended to be to scale. ;)



I know but still... :P :D

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 2:06 am
by Arnie100
Coolness! :)

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 4:18 pm
by taalismn
Seto Kaiba wrote:
TheElf wrote:I know this forum appreciates ASC love. Soak it up!

http://leelf.deviantart.com/art/ROBOTEC ... 1385246614

Nicely done on the Spartas... though Jeanne/Dana's pose looks more than a little stiff and awkward. Like one of those poses department store mannequins come in that nobody could comfortably hold for more than a minute or two.)



The Southern Cross leg poses in particular look almost retrodigigrade...Like mutant animals :shock:

Hmmm...After the Bomb and Southern Cross xover....hmmm.... :bandit:

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 6:58 pm
by ShadowLogan
Tiree wrote:Didn't the S Model Spartas have little ports on the head?

Are you thinking of Dana's "rabbit ear" energy blades? Nothing to say if those are unique to her model VHT or not, they might not be a standard feature on any VHT, but a custom feature found only on 15th ATAC.

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Sun Nov 24, 2013 8:09 pm
by Shawn Merrow
Love it. :ok:

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 1:15 am
by Alpha 11
Nice job. :ok:

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 12:44 pm
by slade the sniper
Excellent, as always. My favorite is still Rook Bartley, tho. That is pretty much the best rendition of her.

-STS

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:23 pm
by Alrik Vas
Nice work. You make Dana look like someone i don't want to strangle. :ok:

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 6:29 pm
by Tiree
ShadowLogan wrote:
Tiree wrote:Didn't the S Model Spartas have little ports on the head?

Are you thinking of Dana's "rabbit ear" energy blades? Nothing to say if those are unique to her model VHT or not, they might not be a standard feature on any VHT, but a custom feature found only on 15th ATAC.

Yes - and I wouldn't normally make a comment about it for all VHT's, but it specifically states that it is hers.

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:26 pm
by Colonel Wolfe
Nice work, beautiful Spartas, good to see some art of the first decent Female main-character in Robotech... She's everything the previous women in the show lacked, Strong, Independent, Intelligent and she piloted a Mecha...
after having to Stomach Lisa and Minmie being so pathetic as female role-models, it was good to see someone who acted like a teenager, because she was one... rather than being love-struck over some arrogant sexist pilot...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:13 am
by TheElf
Seto Kaiba wrote:
TheElf wrote:I know this forum appreciates ASC love. Soak it up!

http://leelf.deviantart.com/art/ROBOTEC ... 1385246614

Nicely done on the Spartas... though Jeanne/Dana's pose looks more than a little stiff and awkward. Like one of those poses department store mannequins come in that nobody could comfortably hold for more than a minute or two.

(IMO, replacing Jeanne/Dana with a department store mannequin would've been a huge improvement... the mannequin would be infinitely more tolerable by the simple virtue of being unable to speak. YMMV, naturally.)



Well on the first part, Thanks! I thought the old Spartas needed the Elven touch. So much potential...

On the second...ouch. I think that might be the harshest feedback I've ever gotten from you Seto. ;) Her pose is a power pose, but I just couldn't bring myself to duplicate that classic SDCSC knee bend...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:14 am
by TheElf
jaymz wrote:
TheElf wrote:
jaymz wrote:Excellent as usual though......the scale of the Spartas could be better :D


The Spartas and Dana aren't intended to be to scale. ;)



I know but still... :P :D



hmm...I'll admit, you got me on that one Jaymz. :?

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:15 am
by TheElf
Arnie100 wrote:Coolness! :)


Thanks Arnie...I can always count on your one word of support ;)

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:16 am
by TheElf
taalismn wrote:
Seto Kaiba wrote:
TheElf wrote:I know this forum appreciates ASC love. Soak it up!

http://leelf.deviantart.com/art/ROBOTEC ... 1385246614

Nicely done on the Spartas... though Jeanne/Dana's pose looks more than a little stiff and awkward. Like one of those poses department store mannequins come in that nobody could comfortably hold for more than a minute or two.)



The Southern Cross leg poses in particular look almost retrodigigrade...Like mutant animals :shock:

Hmmm...After the Bomb and Southern Cross xover....hmmm.... :bandit:


I agree with the leg thing. Never got that...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:17 am
by TheElf
Alpha 11 wrote:Nice job. :ok:


'
Shawn...Alpha,

Thanks!

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:19 am
by TheElf
slade the sniper wrote:Excellent, as always. My favorite is still Rook Bartley, tho. That is pretty much the best rendition of her.

-STS


Slade, I agree. I have always been most happy with my Rook piece. She just came out right, and I've never even considered going back and making improvements like I have on other works. Glad you liked her.

btw, I've hope to revisit Rook as another piece in the future. Lot's of ideas there...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:21 am
by TheElf
Alrik Vas wrote:Nice work. You make Dana look like someone i don't want to strangle. :ok:



Lol...I know. I've always felt the daughter of Max and Miriya (in the RT world at least) always deserved better. I admit to really struggling with that hair! I've been trying to get around that so I can finally get a Dana piece out for well over a year!

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:23 am
by TheElf
Tiree wrote:
ShadowLogan wrote:
Tiree wrote:Didn't the S Model Spartas have little ports on the head?

Are you thinking of Dana's "rabbit ear" energy blades? Nothing to say if those are unique to her model VHT or not, they might not be a standard feature on any VHT, but a custom feature found only on 15th ATAC.

Yes - and I wouldn't normally make a comment about it for all VHT's, but it specifically states that it is hers.


I've always taken the rabbit ears as a goofy bit, with no tactial application, that the original animators put in for funzies. They are only seen in the one episode, and they seem to make light of the ATAC crest, particularly the part I used on the right shoulder. It looks a little like a rabbit.

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 2:25 am
by TheElf
Colonel Wolfe wrote:Nice work, beautiful Spartas, good to see some art of the first decent Female main-character in Robotech... She's everything the previous women in the show lacked, Strong, Independent, Intelligent and she piloted a Mecha...
after having to Stomach Lisa and Minmie being so pathetic as female role-models, it was good to see someone who acted like a teenager, because she was one... rather than being love-struck over some arrogant sexist pilot...


I've always liked Dana's personality, but I've never been able to get behind that hair. Even in the 80s...She does wear sometimes, but in the end her strength shows through. More annoying that Lisa, and much less annoying than Minmei for all the reasons you state.

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 11:42 am
by Tiree
I swear that Nova Satori should have been Max and Miryia's daughter, and they should have had Dana be Rick and Lisa's. But I digress...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:26 pm
by Seto Kaiba
TheElf wrote:Well on the first part, Thanks! I thought the old Spartas needed the Elven touch. So much potential...

Eh... I've never had a lot of time for the designs of Southern Cross, 'cept maybe the Auroran/AGACs. I've always felt something was badly wrong with the idea of a front-line mecha like that having the operator so exposed, though it also had me rather confused that they were so utterly bereft of markings. If you want to do the Spartas a service, maybe toss the old clunker a few sweet paintjobs the way most mecha shows are so fond of doing. It needs it, BAD.


TheElf wrote:On the second...ouch. I think that might be the harshest feedback I've ever gotten from you Seto. ;) Her pose is a power pose, but I just couldn't bring myself to duplicate that classic SDCSC knee bend...

It's just, y'know, a weird and awkward looking pose... but then there's always been that little voice in the back of my head that would say much the same thing about the sort of poses you'd see in the SI swimsuit issue. :lol:

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:55 pm
by Colonel Wolfe
Tiree wrote:I swear that Nova Satori should have been Max and Miryia's daughter, and they should have had Dana be Rick and Lisa's. But I digress...
its common knowledge at high command that Rick and Lisa soaked up to much radiation while in the grand cannon and the one child they did have looked more like a Karbaran than a human...

Re: Crunchy Cheescake...

Posted: Fri Dec 06, 2013 7:18 pm
by slade the sniper
TheElf wrote:
slade the sniper wrote:Excellent, as always. My favorite is still Rook Bartley, tho. That is pretty much the best rendition of her.

-STS


Slade, I agree. I have always been most happy with my Rook piece. She just came out right, and I've never even considered going back and making improvements like I have on other works. Glad you liked her.

btw, I've hope to revisit Rook as another piece in the future. Lot's of ideas there...


When you do, make sure to post it!

-STS