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Glistam wrote:A Heroes Unlimited 2 Immortal Godling.

Base H.P.: 3D6×10 + P.E. (normal roll of 3D6, + 1D6 as a bonus and +1D6+5 from power)
Base S.D.C.: 1D4×100

Mega-Hero Power: Tremendous S.D.C.:1D4×100 + 160

Super Abilities and Other Powers: 71-75, Super Abilities & Magic.

Major Power: Massive Damage Capacity
+2D6×10 H.P., + 1D6×100 S.D.C.

Minor Power: Extraordinary Physical Endurance
+ 3D6 H.P., + 4D4×10 S.D.C.

Spells: I'll touch on these in a bit.

So far we've got the following:

Hit Points: Attribute roll of 3D6, +2D6+5, +3D6×10, +2D6×10
Minimum: 60, Maximum: 347

S.D.C.: 1D4×100, +1D4×100 + 160, +1D6×100, +4D4×100
Minimum: 500, Maximum: 1720

Now the fun part... FIRST, a Mega-Hero increases S.D.C. by 50%.,

S.D.C.:
Minimum: 750, Maximum: 2850

THEN, let's remember the note in the PU2 Demigod block... in Rifts, the character adds up their H.P. and S.D.C. and multiplies it by two to figure out the M.D.C. of the character.

Minimum H.P. + S.D.C., ×2:
((60 + 750) ×2) = 1620

Maximum H.P. + S.D.C., ×2:
((347 + 2850) ×2) = 3197

You might think that's it, but there's two more notes here.

FIRST, the S.D.C. and H.P. of this character increase at every level: H.P. goes up by 4D6+1D4+10 every level, while S.D.C. increases by 100 points. Don't forget to increase that S.D.C. by 50%! (so it's really 150 per level). Each of these increases is then doubled to become M.D.C... Minimum per-level bonus M.D.C.: 330. Maximum per-level bonus M.D.C.: 376.

SECOND, I noticed this "contest" allows for the use of temporary abilities, such as the Rifts Japan body hardening power to convert S.D.C. to M.D.C. for a few minutes. Remember when I said we'd get back to spells? Well in this case, we'll just focus on one spell: Magical Adrenal-Rush. Amongst its abilities bestowed upon the target, it allows a character to "endure triple the normal damage to his body." So cast this spell, take that M.D.C., and multiply it by 3!

Although an M.D.C. range of 4,860 to 9,591 might be impressive enough, I'd rather lose the magic (just befriend a mage who can do that for you, or buy a talisman with it) in order to take two more Major Powers and a Minor (result 96-00): Zombie Flesh, Energy Absorption, and Increased Durability. All three will provide an M.D.C. increase of (((7D6×10)×1.5)×2), but most importantly the character would be impervious to all energy damage and all physical damage. So on the off chance you DO find something that can damage the character, you'd still have to figure out how to deal between 1848 and 4565 M.D.C., and that's just at level 1!

There's probably other powers which can be interjected into this combo for other S.D.C./H.P. fun, but this was the first idea that popped into my head. I also didn't include any skills that provide S.D.C. - all those bonuses would be subject to the 50% increase AND the ×2 multiplier for total M.D.C.. It'll add up.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:I can beat all of the newbs......I have RT 1st ed.

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:I can beat all of the newbs......I have RT 1st ed.

The Beast wrote:

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:I can beat all of the newbs......I have RT 1st ed.

If memory serves me right, didn't the Munchkin Fairy come up with a build that had a ridiculous MDC amount? I know she did one for the HtH. I can't remember if she did one for this.

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

The only ruling that could be considered controversial would be my decision to separate the percentage bonuses from Multiple Powers and Insect Power, Beetles. Rather that doing them multiplicatively like I did, an argument could be made to do them additively in a single stage.
The difference would be as follows:

Combined H.P.+S.D.C. 1,384
Super-Powerful: 14,080 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 14,880 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers/ Insect Power, Beetles: 25,296 (+70%)
Giant-Size Growth: 93,595 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 93,595

Phase Body: 1/100th normal damage.
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage.
Total resistance: 1/1000th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 93,595,000 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 999 M.D.C. or less.

eliakon wrote:

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

The only ruling that could be considered controversial would be my decision to separate the percentage bonuses from Multiple Powers and Insect Power, Beetles. Rather that doing them multiplicatively like I did, an argument could be made to do them additively in a single stage.
The difference would be as follows:

Combined H.P.+S.D.C. 1,384
Super-Powerful: 14,080 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 14,880 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers/ Insect Power, Beetles: 25,296 (+70%)
Giant-Size Growth: 93,595 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 93,595

Phase Body: 1/100th normal damage.
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage.
Total resistance: 1/1000th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 93,595,000 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 999 M.D.C. or less.

Phase Body does not give 1/100 damage (at least not in my copy of phase world) it means that MDC attacks do SDC damage to the SDC of the promethean.
Also you are assuming that you can stack MDC and phase....(though the second stagers do it so there IS a precident)
If the Second Stager is a guide, then MDC+Phased Body equals 1//4 damage (NOT 1/100)
so you have ~94k-100 MDC, take some where between 1/10 and 1/40th damage. Impressive still

And of course the weakness that you have to be a Hero of the Megaverse or lose your powers, but meh

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

The only ruling that could be considered controversial would be my decision to separate the percentage bonuses from Multiple Powers and Insect Power, Beetles. Rather that doing them multiplicatively like I did, an argument could be made to do them additively in a single stage.
The difference would be as follows:

Combined H.P.+S.D.C. 1,384
Super-Powerful: 14,080 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 14,880 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers/ Insect Power, Beetles: 25,296 (+70%)
Giant-Size Growth: 93,595 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 93,595

Phase Body: 1/100th normal damage.
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage.
Total resistance: 1/1000th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 93,595,000 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 999 M.D.C. or less.

Phase Body does not give 1/100 damage (at least not in my copy of phase world) it means that MDC attacks do SDC damage to the SDC of the promethean.
Also you are assuming that you can stack MDC and phase....(though the second stagers do it so there IS a precident)
If the Second Stager is a guide, then MDC+Phased Body equals 1//4 damage (NOT 1/100)
so you have ~94k-100 MDC, take some where between 1/10 and 1/40th damage. Impressive still

And of course the weakness that you have to be a Hero of the Megaverse or lose your powers, but meh

He isn't a Second Stager and reducing M.D. to S.D is the same as reducing damage by 100-fold with the added benefit of being undamaged by anything that inflicts 99 M.D. or less.

eliakon wrote:

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

The only ruling that could be considered controversial would be my decision to separate the percentage bonuses from Multiple Powers and Insect Power, Beetles. Rather that doing them multiplicatively like I did, an argument could be made to do them additively in a single stage.
The difference would be as follows:

Combined H.P.+S.D.C. 1,384
Super-Powerful: 14,080 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 14,880 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers/ Insect Power, Beetles: 25,296 (+70%)
Giant-Size Growth: 93,595 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 93,595

Phase Body: 1/100th normal damage.
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage.
Total resistance: 1/1000th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 93,595,000 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 999 M.D.C. or less.

Phase Body does not give 1/100 damage (at least not in my copy of phase world) it means that MDC attacks do SDC damage to the SDC of the promethean.
Also you are assuming that you can stack MDC and phase....(though the second stagers do it so there IS a precident)
If the Second Stager is a guide, then MDC+Phased Body equals 1//4 damage (NOT 1/100)
so you have ~94k-100 MDC, take some where between 1/10 and 1/40th damage. Impressive still

And of course the weakness that you have to be a Hero of the Megaverse or lose your powers, but meh

He isn't a Second Stager and reducing M.D. to S.D is the same as reducing damage by 100-fold with the added benefit of being undamaged by anything that inflicts 99 M.D. or less.

yes, assuming that he KEEPS that power. There is nothing in the rules that suggest it would. Like I said, house rule time.
Heck its a house rule to allow a promethean to become MDC at all. They might be prevented by their phase power. *shrugs*
its an amusing munchkin build, but like I said, it requires a bunch of house rules and gm calls.

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:

Giant2005 wrote:

eliakon wrote:well its spiffy....if you don't mind bending a few rules, house rule a couple more, and rewrite one or two.

The only ruling that could be considered controversial would be my decision to separate the percentage bonuses from Multiple Powers and Insect Power, Beetles. Rather that doing them multiplicatively like I did, an argument could be made to do them additively in a single stage.
The difference would be as follows:

Combined H.P.+S.D.C. 1,384
Super-Powerful: 14,080 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 14,880 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers/ Insect Power, Beetles: 25,296 (+70%)
Giant-Size Growth: 93,595 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 93,595

Phase Body: 1/100th normal damage.
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage.
Total resistance: 1/1000th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 93,595,000 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 999 M.D.C. or less.

Phase Body does not give 1/100 damage (at least not in my copy of phase world) it means that MDC attacks do SDC damage to the SDC of the promethean.
Also you are assuming that you can stack MDC and phase....(though the second stagers do it so there IS a precident)
If the Second Stager is a guide, then MDC+Phased Body equals 1//4 damage (NOT 1/100)
so you have ~94k-100 MDC, take some where between 1/10 and 1/40th damage. Impressive still

And of course the weakness that you have to be a Hero of the Megaverse or lose your powers, but meh

He isn't a Second Stager and reducing M.D. to S.D is the same as reducing damage by 100-fold with the added benefit of being undamaged by anything that inflicts 99 M.D. or less.

say652 wrote:

The Beast wrote:

drewkitty ~..~ wrote:I can beat all of the newbs......I have RT 1st ed.

If memory serves me right, didn't the Munchkin Fairy come up with a build that had a ridiculous MDC amount? I know she did one for the HtH. I can't remember if she did one for this.

Oddly enough I create these Munchkin Fairies to use as major menaces for my players. I mean you do get sick of dragons, giants, glittetboys, and samas. O wait are one of those my players get pistols to hunt Devil Unicorns at level 1 GM's? Get off my lawn....

Alrik Vas wrote:I think my head just exploded after reading this thread... *goes and picks up pieces of brain matter*

Rooks wrote:Impervious to energy Impervious to Kinetic what damage?

Glistam wrote:A Heroes Unlimited 2 Immortal Godling.

Base H.P.: 3D6×10 + P.E. (normal roll of 3D6, + 1D6 as a bonus and +1D6+5 from power)
Base S.D.C.: 1D4×100

Mega-Hero Power: Tremendous S.D.C.:1D4×100 + 160

Super Abilities and Other Powers: 71-75, Super Abilities & Magic.

Major Power: Massive Damage Capacity
+2D6×10 H.P., + 1D6×100 S.D.C.

Minor Power: Extraordinary Physical Endurance
+ 3D6 H.P., + 4D4×10 S.D.C.

Spells: I'll touch on these in a bit.

So far we've got the following:

Hit Points: Attribute roll of 3D6, +2D6+5, +3D6×10, +2D6×10
Minimum: 60, Maximum: 347

S.D.C.: 1D4×100, +1D4×100 + 160, +1D6×100, +4D4×100
Minimum: 500, Maximum: 1720

Now the fun part... FIRST, a Mega-Hero increases S.D.C. by 50%.

S.D.C.:
Minimum: 750, Maximum: 2850

THEN, let's remember the note in the PU2 Demigod block... in Rifts, the character adds up their H.P. and S.D.C. and multiplies it by two to figure out the M.D.C. of the character.

Minimum H.P. + S.D.C., ×2:
((60 + 750) ×2) = 1620

Maximum H.P. + S.D.C., ×2:
((347 + 2850) ×2) = 3197

You might think that's it, but there's two more notes here.

FIRST, the S.D.C. and H.P. of this character increase at every level: H.P. goes up by 4D6+1D4+10 every level, while S.D.C. increases by 100 points. Don't forget to increase that S.D.C. by 50%! (so it's really 150 per level). Each of these increases is then doubled to become M.D.C... Minimum per-level bonus M.D.C.: 330. Maximum per-level bonus M.D.C.: 376.

SECOND, I noticed this "contest" allows for the use of temporary abilities, such as the Rifts Japan body hardening power to convert S.D.C. to M.D.C. for a few minutes. Remember when I said we'd get back to spells? Well in this case, we'll just focus on one spell: Magical Adrenal-Rush. Amongst its abilities bestowed upon the target, it allows a character to "endure triple the normal damage to his body." So cast this spell, take that M.D.C., and multiply it by 3!

Although an M.D.C. range of 4,860 to 9,591 might be impressive enough, I'd rather lose the magic (just befriend a mage who can do that for you, or buy a talisman with it) in order to take two more Major Powers and a Minor (result 96-00): Zombie Flesh, Energy Absorption, and Increased Durability. All three will provide an M.D.C. increase of (((7D6×10)×1.5)×2), but most importantly the character would be impervious to all energy damage and all physical damage. So on the off chance you DO find something that can damage the character, you'd still have to figure out how to deal between 1848 and 4565 M.D.C., and that's just at level 1!

There's probably other powers which can be interjected into this combo for other S.D.C./H.P. fun, but this was the first idea that popped into my head. I also didn't include any skills that provide S.D.C. - all those bonuses would be subject to the 50% increase AND the ×2 multiplier for total M.D.C.. It'll add up.

Giant2005 wrote:Amaki Sohei Warrior Monk Empowered by the Book of Heroes:
P.E.: 57 (Base 24 +9 low attribute bonus, +3 O.C.C. bonus, +11 skills, +10 superpowers)
Base H.P.: P.E.x10
H.P. from leveling: +360 (4D6x15)
Base S.D.C.: 1800 (3D6x100)
O.C.C. Bonus: +282 (Dam Sum Sing, Stone Ox, Chi-Gung)
Skills: +110, (Jujitsu, Demon Wrestling, Gymnastics, Forced March, Snow Skiing, Cross Country Skiing, Running, Athletics, Aerobic Athletics, Body Building)

Combined H.P.+S.D.C.: 3,122
Super-Powerful: 31,460 (H.P.+S.D.C.x10 +4D6x10 M.D.C.)
Impervious: 32,260 (+2D4x100)
Multiple Powers: 41,938 (+30%)
Insect Power, Beetles: 58,713 (+40%)
Giant-Size Growth: 217,239 (+270%)

Total M.D.C.: 217,239

Amaki Damage Resistance: 1/2 normal damage
Dam Sum Sing: 1/2 normal daamge
Impervious: 1/10th normal damage
Phase-Field: 1/10th normal damage
Total resistance: 1/400th normal damage

Equivalent Total M.D.C.: 86,895,540 and is immune to any damage that inflicts 390 M.D.C. or less.

The Ruiner wrote:Well, it's official. I am NOT a munchkin. None of these builds/combinations would have ever occurred to me. Also what book is the Mega hero stuff in?

Tinker Dragoon wrote:

The Ruiner wrote:Well, it'soficial. I am NOT a munchkin. None of these builds/combinations would have ever occurred to me. Also what book is the Mega hero stuff in?

HU2, p. 178.

The Ruiner wrote:

Tinker Dragoon wrote:

The Ruiner wrote:Well, it'soficial. I am NOT a munchkin. None of these builds/combinations would have ever occurred to me. Also what book is the Mega hero stuff in?

HU2, p. 178.

What edition? All I have is Heroes Revised 7th printing, 1991.