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D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Thu Nov 13, 2014 11:52 pm
by Snake Eyes
I'm putting together a D'norr Devilman Mystic (WB-30), but they are psychic void, what to do?, what to do?

I have a couple ideas myself:
1) Add extra spells
2) Just drop the psionics and build the Mystic as normal


Anyway i would like some ideas from anyone who has done this already :-)

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 12:55 am
by drewkitty ~..~
Use the NB Mystic from the NB Main book as a guide. And discuss this with the GM as you make it.

Now if you have asked about the same about the mystic class in PF then the answer would be, They are a psychic void and can't be a PCC.

If this was for a game I was GMing I would give you the answer They are a psychic void and can't be a PCC.

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 3:08 am
by eliakon
The few examples I have seen just generally drop the psionics with out compensation. That said talking to your GM would probably be the way to go. A small number of compensating spells (say three or four spells level 1-3) should be pretty good. Especially if the spells are stipulated to be spells that replicate psionics (See Aura, Impression, See Invisible, Etc.)

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Fri Nov 14, 2014 11:48 am
by Snake Eyes
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Use the NB Mystic from the NB Main book as a guide. And discuss this with the GM as you make it.

Now if you have asked about the same about the mystic class in PF then the answer would be, They are a psychic void and can't be a PCC.

If this was for a game I was GMing I would give you the answer They are a psychic void and can't be a PCC.

Well i'm the GM...... :-D
Thanks for the ideas, i'll check out the Mystic from NB

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Sun Nov 16, 2014 11:47 pm
by Snake Eyes
Well, now i feel silly.....if i would have read further on the list of available OCCs it actually says that the D'norr can't take any OCCs that require psionics including the Mystic :frust:

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Mon Nov 17, 2014 6:14 pm
by eliakon
Snake Eyes wrote:Well, now i feel silly.....if i would have read further on the list of available OCCs it actually says that the D'norr can't take any OCCs that require psionics including the Mystic :frust:

Good thing your the GM :p *Points to that handy Fiat Wand that comes with the GM hat* Just wave that thing, and Voila, psionicless Mystics. Make sure to rename it into something like "Inspired Spellmaster" or something and your golden.

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Tue Nov 18, 2014 11:01 pm
by Snake Eyes
eliakon wrote:
Snake Eyes wrote:Well, now i feel silly.....if i would have read further on the list of available OCCs it actually says that the D'norr can't take any OCCs that require psionics including the Mystic :frust:

Good thing your the GM :p *Points to that handy Fiat Wand that comes with the GM hat* Just wave that thing, and Voila, psionicless Mystics. Make sure to rename it into something like "Inspired Spellmaster" or something and your golden.

Lol yeah......but even as a GM i still try to build NPCs as legal as possible, because some of those dropped in as extra PCs (just in case) :-D

Re: D-Bee Mystic (No Psionics)

Posted: Thu Nov 20, 2014 5:13 pm
by eliakon
Snake Eyes wrote:
eliakon wrote:
Snake Eyes wrote:Well, now i feel silly.....if i would have read further on the list of available OCCs it actually says that the D'norr can't take any OCCs that require psionics including the Mystic :frust:

Good thing your the GM :p *Points to that handy Fiat Wand that comes with the GM hat* Just wave that thing, and Voila, psionicless Mystics. Make sure to rename it into something like "Inspired Spellmaster" or something and your golden.

Lol yeah......but even as a GM i still try to build NPCs as legal as possible, because some of those dropped in as extra PCs (just in case) :-D

Which is why you do it this way. Now it IS 'legal' Its not a mystic, its a new class that is based on the mystic. Sure its a house rule class....but if you do it carefully it should be perfectly fine as a PC. Its also useful to have the set up handy for if someone wants to build this on one of the races out there that doesn't have psionics and doesn't block mystics (I know there are a couple, though their identities escape me at the moment)