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All Palladium books (to the best of my knowledge) say that Domestic Skills can be taken 2x ( as a secondary skill) and will then be considered "Professional Quality". How does this translate to game play? Do you increase the skill %? If so, how much: by 50%, by the per level bonus so the char starts at L2? I'd really like to know how you guys do this.

Or is it simply a matter of saying,

GM: "you succeed in your wilderness survival roll and have built a leanto and a fire."

Player, "BS! I'm a professional wilderness survivalist. I didn't build a leanto and a fire. What I built is a fully sealed, multi room log cabin with stone fireplaces and hearths"

I'm considering doubling up on the Hunting skill as described in Rifter 24 or the PF world book for Yin Sloth Jungles. but I just don't know how it would work out exactly.

Taking a secondary skill twice to achieve professional quality only applies to Domestic Skills, and the percentage increase is only 10% for doing so. Those who are familiar with the skill (and maybe others who aren't - GM call) will recognize "Professional" level versus "Amateur" level results. Whether or not that matters depends on the skill, the NPC, and the situation.

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:All Palladium books (to the best of my knowledge) say that Domestic Skills can be taken 2x ( as a secondary skill) and will then be considered "Professional Quality". How does this translate to game play? Do you increase the skill %? If so, how much: by 50%, by the per level bonus so the char starts at L2? I'd really like to know how you guys do this.

Or is it simply a matter of saying,

GM: "you succeed in your wilderness survival roll and have built a leanto and a fire."

Player, "BS! I'm a professional wilderness survivalist. I didn't build a leanto and a fire. What I built is a fully sealed, multi room log cabin with stone fireplaces and hearths"

I'm considering doubling up on the Hunting skill as described in Rifter 24 or the PF world book for Yin Sloth Jungles. but I just don't know how it would work out exactly.

The rules make it clear only Domestic skills can be taken x2, and doing so means....that you gain 10% and the result is considered professional quality. that is it. that is ALL it means. a 10% bonus and an arbitrarily better resuilt.

basically, taking cooking once means your a good home cook, taking it twice means you can cook in 5 star resturants. take wardrobe and grooming once you can do your own makeup. taking it 2x means you can work in a salon.

basically taking it "Professionally" means you are good enough to make a living at it, if you decide to pack it in and stop adventuring.

I should have mentioned, as I did on facebook, I'm playing in an after the bomb game. in after the bomb, wilderness survival is considered a domestic skill. it gives the hunting skill to players as part of core package of skills, but it is not listed in any of the categories or given a description or skill percentage. it is listed in palladium fantasy as a wilderness skill. after the bomb does not have this category, so I decided to stick it in the domestic and frontier group.

The Oh So Amazing Nate wrote:I should have mentioned, as I did on facebook, I'm playing in an after the bomb game. in after the bomb, wilderness survival is considered a domestic skill. it gives the hunting skill to players as part of core package of skills, but it is not listed in any of the categories or given a description or skill percentage. it is listed in palladium fantasy as a wilderness skill. after the bomb does not have this category, so I decided to stick it in the domestic and frontier group.

If it has no % chance, then taking it means you could be a paid guide in hazardous terrain.

professional skills are mostly a roleplaying thing. unless your character does it for a side income, it dosn't really DO anything the normal skill can't. it just lets you charge money for it.

You might want to take a look at Rifter #30's article entitled "A Cut Above" as it will give you some options on this subject.

The Mysteries of Magic book for PF also has some rules on taking skills multiple times to improve the underlying skill.