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OK, seen posts about this and one thing is not clarified: Does the gift of knowledge give you the ability to create wards / circles?

Odin is specifically listed as being a 20th level LLW, Diabolist, Summoner, Temporal Wizard, and Necromancer, It is stated that he gained all of these from the World Tree, but then, under magic knowledge the book says:

Knows ALL spell magic of all levels, including spells of legend, temporal magic, circles, wards and rune magic (which he never shares). He also knows all Necromantic spells described in Rifts Africa, but does not have a Necromancer's special powers and tries to avoid using this dark magic.

So, he specifically didn't get the Necromancer O.C.C. abilities, but did get Diabolist and Summoner abilities?

How have you handled this in your games?

Don't let chars with such abilities into any game of mine. Not even as NPCs.

Odin is a (very technical term here) "Special Snowflake"
As a god (and an all-father level one at that) his results from the ritual are different than what other people would get.

I say you get the abilities listed.

I have had two Gifted characters, one I used the other a player in my game

say652 wrote:I say you get the abilities listed.

I have had two Gifted characters, one I used the other a player in my game

Abilities listed where? For Odin or in the Gift of Knowledge?

In the gift of knowledge.

Its really not overpowering.

say652 wrote:In the gift of knowledge.

Its really not overpowering.

OK, thanks for the clarification. I agree, not overpowering.

To avoid other All-Fathers doing this and expecting abilities I'd like to think Odin is the specialist snowflake so nobody else can ever get what he got and only gets what's listed under the tree.