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A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.

Is this even possible?

What Cyborg occ is required to build it?

Heavy Combat Borg occ.
Warlord Heavy Machine.
Japanese Police Officer.
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Cyborg Soldier from Triax Bk 1, OR one of the Russian builds. However it would still only give an additional 1 action (for total of two extra actions). I'd also make the call that a high M.E. stat would be required to deal with the extra sensory inputs (say ME 15 minimum).
DEFINITELY would be a full conversion jobby.
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So it is plausible.
It looked possible using the Heavy Combat Cyborg Occ, just the Russian and Japanese are bionic heavy cultures so it would be easier there.
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say652 wrote:So it is plausible.
It looked possible using the Heavy Combat Cyborg Occ, just the Russian and Japanese are bionic heavy cultures so it would be easier there.

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For Simplicity, Taking a Cyberslinger cyborg Frame.
The Superslinger and slapping another set of Arms on it.
Low mdc + decent attributes= Close enough to get the character in play.
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say652 wrote:For Simplicity, Taking a Cyberslinger cyborg Frame.
The Superslinger and slapping another set of Arms on it.
Low mdc + decent attributes= Close enough to get the character in play.

Though she is a mutant, one of the best examples of a 6 armed character would have to be 'Spiral' from the X-men 'verse.
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It was, among other influences. I wanted a borg, since i just lost my Robot Pilot.
Figured a Six Armed Cyborg would be a cool character.
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From a "realistic" aspect, I think a limited AI to run other arms might work better. Something like the JK armors. I think of the extra guns like arms and the targeting computer (a limited AI) does its own attacks. Using that base, I could see each set giving additional attacks. The NG-V7 is like that with the crotch gun. Just gives a flat +4 attacks like the Juicer Killer.

The biggest conceptual challenge is the weight of that many arms. It raises the center of gravity so much, I'd expect it to make for poor balance. my thoughts anyhow.
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I went with a tall slender design, like the Super Slinger.
Figured I'd keep the Robot Ps low and focus on Bionic Pp.
Also i liked the Jeridu rule of having to take paired weapons 3 times for each weapon i use paired.
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Since my previous suggestions were denied i begin the rough post.

100 Fist Cyborg.
8' tall.
1000lbs.

Robot Ps 24.
Bionic Pp 26.
Bionic Speed 88.

Mainbody mdc 280.

Arms Provide +2 Attacks, +2 Strike&Parry.
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say652 wrote:A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.


I notice that you always seem to be making new characters. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see these character sheets. I'm compiling a big roster of NPCs for use in my own campaigns. All your characters might be useful to have.
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Willy Elektrix wrote:
say652 wrote:A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.


I notice that you always seem to be making new characters. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see these character sheets. I'm compiling a big roster of NPCs for use in my own campaigns. All your characters might be useful to have.


I haven't been gming so the don't last very long. Lol.
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As I remember, per mindwerks, you can have 6 or8 arms per the telekinetic extensions, so long as you're ok with being a psynetic borg
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say652 wrote:
Willy Elektrix wrote:
say652 wrote:A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.


I notice that you always seem to be making new characters. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see these character sheets. I'm compiling a big roster of NPCs for use in my own campaigns. All your characters might be useful to have.


I haven't been gming so the don't last very long. Lol.

"LEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENkins" syndrome? :wink:

P.S.; and since I haven't been a player in nearly...gawds, 6 years? I have PC's that haven't seen the light of day, but I don't want to relegate to NPC status. :frust: :nh:
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DhAkael wrote:
say652 wrote:
Willy Elektrix wrote:
say652 wrote:A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.


I notice that you always seem to be making new characters. If you wouldn't mind, I'd love to see these character sheets. I'm compiling a big roster of NPCs for use in my own campaigns. All your characters might be useful to have.


I haven't been gming so the don't last very long. Lol.

"LEEEEEEEEEEEEEROY JENkins" syndrome? :wink:

P.S.; and since I haven't been a player in nearly...gawds, 6 years? I have PC's that haven't seen the light of day, but I don't want to relegate to NPC status. :frust: :nh:


That's how Handsome Rob the AntiMonster died.

Kiyohide and Morgan were lost when Their Banshee got Rifted in a Leyline Storm.
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say652 wrote:
That's how Handsome Rob the AntiMonster died.

Kiyohide and Morgan were lost when Their Banshee got Rifted in a Leyline Storm.


Ouch. :eek:
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Well, the anti-monster went out like a champ at least.

The Banshee crew was just dumb bad luck...
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Yea, sometimes the dice fall that way.
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After talking with the GM, i was allowed the design and Combat Cyborg occ but! I am a Jeridu who has no racial abilities because he's full conversion. Since it's a phaseworld game is not that much of a stretch.
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Jerridu; are they in 'D-Bee's of North Am'? I keep getting hit in the face by them but for the love of C'Thulhu I can't recall ever reading up on 'em. (Though I could read you chapter & verse about the Kirn, Gorushan, Attorians and Riathenor) :p
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say652 wrote:Land of the damned

Ah that's why I've never seen it; I don't do Palladium Fantasy (Collecting 3/4 of the Rifts books took up more than enough space as is, never mind bank-account)...
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Still got the Six Armed Cyborg in play. He's a Singer named Vince. He plays with a Motley Crew of Miscreants. Lol
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And the character was sidelined after the first Attack in combat. Lol
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say652 wrote:And the character was sidelined after the first Attack in combat. Lol

W
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F man!?
Have you stepped on a fairy circle?
Urinated on an idol of C'Thulhu?
Seriously, it's like the dyce-bawt has conspired with SOME power that be to gank your characters as soon as they hit the field. :shock: :eek:
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DhAkael wrote:
say652 wrote:And the character was sidelined after the first Attack in combat. Lol

W
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F man!?
Have you stepped on a fairy circle?
Urinated on an idol of C'Thulhu?
Seriously, it's like the dyce-bawt has conspired with SOME power that be to gank your characters as soon as they hit the field. :shock: :eek:



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Took Sharpshooter Energy Pistol, a skill allowed to borgs.
Fired all six Plasma cartridge pistols at one target, dealt 200md.
And that was a, No. Make another Character....
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DhAkael wrote:
say652 wrote:And the character was sidelined after the first Attack in combat. Lol

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F man!?
Have you stepped on a fairy circle?
Urinated on an idol of C'Thulhu?
Seriously, it's like the dyce-bawt has conspired with SOME power that be to gank your characters as soon as they hit the field. :shock: :eek:


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He was sick for two years.......
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say652 wrote:A six Armed Full Conversion Cyborg.

Is this even possible?

What Cyborg occ is required to build it?

Heavy Combat Borg occ.
Warlord Heavy Machine.
Japanese Police Officer.

You know there is a sdc race that starts with six arms and auto dodge. They get paired weapon with all arms for free. They are in one of the PF books. Using that race as the base, any borg could have 6 arms. Do not have my books with me right now, will look up the race when I get a chance. The book had allot of races that have reference to the old ones war. Kind of a badlands fill. Think it was in chaos lands.
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The Jeridu, i know that. That is a banned by gm race.
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say652 wrote:The Jeridu, i know that. That is a banned by gm race.

well when you go for six of the hardest hitting guns you can find they tend to get banned fast.
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On a team of Godlings, Dragonwolves and other powerhouses characters i really didn't see the issue......
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You do not see a issue with doing more damage than a GB, (that is suppose to be high end of damage.)
Try this make a operator that flies the vtol air craft from NG the one with a ton of mini missiles. Lob a vollie of 48 mini missilles at a target, legal yes, op heck yes but not the classes fault.
The other charters are damage sponges that probably no where near that damage your borg was doing.

What is the average damage output of the other charters? That is where you want to place your damage at. If every one else is doing 1d6X10 you want to do about the same.
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