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Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 1:33 pm
by ZINO
Is the an official S.A.M.A.S for space ?
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:29 pm
by ShadowLogan
No SAMAS model/variants are known to be made for space AFAIK. Really the power blocks (RoJ, CS, FQ, BM) that produce the SAMAS don't have a need for a space model variant as none of them can get into space.
The Glitterboy has a trio of space models in Mutants in Orbit SB, but not the SAMAS.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:47 pm
by DhAkael
Reason being; Kevin Siembiada doesn't want to open space up to the mudslugs... even his favorite Neo-nazi plot immune thugs.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 8:51 pm
by eliakon
Even though the design is Pre-Rifts it appears that it was either not used in space or the template files did not survive.
If a person wanted to make a space SAMAS my suggestion would be to use the Silver Eagle/Golden Eagle drop the speed down a lot (the turbines wont work with out air) and call it good.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:25 pm
by Knowing Telepath
There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:18 pm
by ZINO
Knowing Telepath wrote:There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
yes thank you but surprise PB doesn't have shame PB
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:24 pm
by eliakon
ZINO wrote:Knowing Telepath wrote:There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
yes thank you but surprise PB doesn't have shame PB
At the time there wasn't a need for it.
After all any other power armor would have made the fantastically expensive space Glitterboys even more outrageous. So they simply did away with rival suits
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:27 pm
by ZINO
eliakon wrote:ZINO wrote:Knowing Telepath wrote:There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
yes thank you but surprise PB doesn't have shame PB
At the time there wasn't a need for it.
After all any other power armor would have made the fantastically expensive space Glitterboys even more outrageous. So they simply did away with rival suits
rifts space would of been perfect to add s S.A.M.A.S for space operation really lost opportunity there
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2018 10:42 pm
by eliakon
ZINO wrote:eliakon wrote:ZINO wrote:Knowing Telepath wrote:There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
yes thank you but surprise PB doesn't have shame PB
At the time there wasn't a need for it.
After all any other power armor would have made the fantastically expensive space Glitterboys even more outrageous. So they simply did away with rival suits
rifts space would of been perfect to add s S.A.M.A.S for space operation really lost opportunity there
Oh I agree. They should have had at a
minimum a suit of armor for each station. And personally I would have not been lazy and reskinned ground suits but made actual new suits that were designed from the get go to be space armors. Waldos in the arms, maneuvering jets, magnetic boot clamps, tracking beacons (that can be turned on and off), built in tethers and oxygen hoses for long duration operations, spot lights, weapon systems and defenses using space tech... the
works.
Then maybe toss in a couple classic suits reskinned as well.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 1:52 am
by Ambrosius
Not official but I would say that if you were to have them, the turbines would need to be replaced with something else. Though that may take away some of the Rifts Earth flavor of them.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:16 pm
by Axelmania
One thing I find confusing about this is... aren't the SAMAS and Glitter Boy both based on the same cyberworks/republican designs?
If there are spaceGB on the other Archie on the moon you'd figure he'd have SAMAS equivs too.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 12:26 pm
by Nightmask
eliakon wrote:Even though the design is Pre-Rifts it appears that it was either not used in space or the template files did not survive.
If a person wanted to make a space SAMAS my suggestion would be to use the Silver Eagle/Golden Eagle drop the speed down a lot (the turbines wont work with out air) and call it good.
Well remember that the groups that produced the SAMAS and the Glitter Boy were rivals, we have Space Glitter Boys because the corporation that produced them also went into space as part of Freedom Station. The SAMAS on the other hand didn't make it that far, which is why we see efforts to create their own space-based power armors to pick up the slack. It might have also been part of an effort to avoid 'The CS IN SPACE!' from happening, since the Moon Colony's antagonistic behavior is squarely in alignment with CS behavior, although thankfully more like the former Quebec state and not like the Chi-Town state.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 3:37 pm
by glitterboy2098
eliakon wrote:ZINO wrote:eliakon wrote:ZINO wrote:Knowing Telepath wrote:There isn’t an official one that I can remember, but Kitsune has a space SAMAS on his page if you want an example of one.
yes thank you but surprise PB doesn't have shame PB
At the time there wasn't a need for it.
After all any other power armor would have made the fantastically expensive space Glitterboys even more outrageous. So they simply did away with rival suits
rifts space would of been perfect to add s S.A.M.A.S for space operation really lost opportunity there
Oh I agree. They should have had at a
minimum a suit of armor for each station. And personally I would have not been lazy and reskinned ground suits but made actual new suits that were designed from the get go to be space armors. Waldos in the arms, maneuvering jets, magnetic boot clamps, tracking beacons (that can be turned on and off), built in tethers and oxygen hoses for long duration operations, spot lights, weapon systems and defenses using space tech... the
works.
Then maybe toss in a couple classic suits reskinned as well.
keep in mind that Mutants in orbit was meant as a After the Bomb book first and foremost, and the Rifts section was at best, a tacked on appendix. ATB does not have the kind of widespread power armor rifts does (the Empire of Humanity's suits are implied to be unique inventions they've made). had the book been written as a Rifts book exclusively, i'd imagine that it would not only be higher page count but also include stuff like you mention.
Re: Looking for a power armoured
Posted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 6:22 pm
by eliakon
glitterboy2098 wrote:eliakon wrote:Oh I agree. They should have had at a minimum a suit of armor for each station. And personally I would have not been lazy and reskinned ground suits but made actual new suits that were designed from the get go to be space armors. Waldos in the arms, maneuvering jets, magnetic boot clamps, tracking beacons (that can be turned on and off), built in tethers and oxygen hoses for long duration operations, spot lights, weapon systems and defenses using space tech... the works.
Then maybe toss in a couple classic suits reskinned as well.
keep in mind that Mutants in orbit was meant as a After the Bomb book first and foremost, and the Rifts section was at best, a tacked on appendix. ATB does not have the kind of widespread power armor rifts does (the Empire of Humanity's suits are implied to be unique inventions they've made). had the book been written as a Rifts book exclusively, i'd imagine that it would not only be higher page count but also include stuff like you mention.
I would still have liked a few more pages of power armor in the Rifts part.
Instead we get a ton of weirdness that basically ends up having to be ignored to make the rest of the games canon even remotely hold up.