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I am trying to figure out when the events of Megaverse in Flames (Rifts Earth) occurs in relation to the Dimension Books 10 (Hades) 11 (Dyval) 12 (Dimensional Outbreak) (Three Galaxies) has anyone been able to resolve when events occur in Post Apocalyptic Calendar on Earth with relation to the Galactic Calendar in the Three Galaxies? Any help would be much appreciated on when these coordinated attacks begin on Rifts Earth and Phaseworld .

they are two different dimensions, and time may not flow the same there as in rifts earth's, so i'm not sure you can compare them directly.

glitterboy2098 wrote:they are two different dimensions, and time may not flow the same there as in rifts earth's, so i'm not sure you can compare them directly.

Yeah I thought about that, but both settings have timelines of how things progress with the "Minion War" and respectively the "taut offensive" is what started the whole "Minion War" in earnest. I want to get some context for when certain events happen and I can extrapolate from there. I am running a campaign and I am thinking that the PCs will probably wind up visiting Phaseworld during the invasion. I am trying to figure out the relationship between events happening on Phaseworld and events happening on Rifts Earth. If I can't extrapolate from the books I will just arbitrarily decide as the GM, but I am trying to stick to the metaplot for this one. Sticking to the plot is usually easier on me as the GM.

The Minion War could be the event that postpones the seemingly inevitable 2nd Galactic War between the CCW and the TGE...

Look at some of the CS & other reports in MViF (p. 8-11) one can surmise the 'start' of the Rifts-Earth Demon Invasions start shortly before mid-December 109 P.A. or thereabouts. But your campaign can have them starting earlier, establishing a beachhead, gathering forces both from their dimensions & on Rifts-Earth, before the dates in the reports.
I agree with glitterboy, time in either/both Hades & Dyval can move at different 'speeds' than Rifts-Earth or HU-Earth.

BookWyrm wrote:Look at some of the CS & other reports in MViF (p. 8-11) one can surmise the 'start' of the Rifts-Earth Demon Invasions start shortly before mid-December 109 P.A. or thereabouts. But your campaign can have them starting earlier, establishing a beachhead, gathering forces both from their dimensions & on Rifts-Earth, before the dates in the reports.
I agree with glitterboy, time in either/both Hades & Dyval can move at different 'speeds' than Rifts-Earth or HU-Earth.

I just found that blurb about the shifter that is talking with Thoth. I appreciate your help. I was hoping to be able to find an instance that I could use to orient myself in the Timeline of Phase World and the Timeline of Rifts Earth. It appears that the blurb about the shifter coming back and reporting on things going on in Hades is just what I needed. Thanks again to everybody for the help!

Silvananthus wrote:

glitterboy2098 wrote:they are two different dimensions, and time may not flow the same there as in rifts earth's, so i'm not sure you can compare them directly.

Yeah I thought about that, but both settings have timelines of how things progress with the "Minion War" and respectively the "taut offensive" is what started the whole "Minion War" in earnest. I want to get some context for when certain events happen and I can extrapolate from there. I am running a campaign and I am thinking that the PCs will probably wind up visiting Phaseworld during the invasion. I am trying to figure out the relationship between events happening on Phaseworld and events happening on Rifts Earth. If I can't extrapolate from the books I will just arbitrarily decide as the GM, but I am trying to stick to the metaplot for this one. Sticking to the plot is usually easier on me as the GM.

Do the books have actual timelines and tables or do you mean a bunch of references peppered in a haphazard fashion across the fluff of the books? Because one thing is far simpler to deal with than the other.

Knife Master in Phase World is from Wormwood, and we know from Tarn's trip that 6 months might end up being 2 years by the time you get back, although the easier explanation for that is saying time might occasionally freeze when you travel through a rift.

Axelmania wrote:Knife Master in Phase World is from Wormwood, and we know from Tarn's trip that 6 months might end up being 2 years by the time you get back, although the easier explanation for that is saying time might occasionally freeze when you travel through a rift.

I tend to prefer the second explanation, as it gives the GM freedom in the matter of occasionally messing with the passage of time but no obligation/worry about ratios & such.

Knife Master? Good, good, could you give a page reference? Wormwood native in the 3Gs is something too juicy not to tinker with for a game.

He's the masked guy in the NPC section at start of DB2

Silvananthus wrote:I am trying to figure out when the events of Megaverse in Flames (Rifts Earth) occurs in relation to the Dimension Books 10 (Hades) 11 (Dyval) 12 (Dimensional Outbreak) (Three Galaxies) has anyone been able to resolve when events occur in Post Apocalyptic Calendar on Earth with relation to the Galactic Calendar in the Three Galaxies? Any help would be much appreciated on when these coordinated attacks begin on Rifts Earth and Phaseworld .

Does it say anywhere that the portals from 3G to Rifts Earth are relative? There could be time dialation.

I seem to recall something about the Minion War being responsible for sending demons 1-2 centuries backward in time where they showed up in Chaos Earth too... can't remember where though.

Axelmania wrote:I seem to recall something about the Minion War being responsible for sending demons 1-2 centuries backward in time where they showed up in Chaos Earth too... can't remember where though.

That sounds familiar indeed, damn.