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1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 1:19 pm
by ZorValachan
I was hoping someone would be able to help me. I am starting a new game using 1st edition Palladium Role-Playing Game. It was the game that sucked me into Role-Playing back in the 1980s and I've been having an itch to go old school. Sadly, my 1st edition Monsters & Animals book was ruined while in storage and I cannot find a copy for a reasonable price. The pdf is not on Drivethrurpg. I do have 2nd edition.

I'm not asking for a copy or anything. I just have a very specific question about the Bearmen. I have a player that really wants to play a bearman. I do not feel that using 2nd edition attributes/stat block is right. I see that other races have adjustments in starting attribute rolls. I'm not asking for the full stat block, just If someone has both books, what are the differences? And are any of the special ability things in the 1st edition? Again, I'm not asking for the whole thing to be copied. I know that is probably breaking the forum rules. But changes would not get me anything without having the 2nd edition book also.

or, if someone might know where i could get a legitimate copy (physical or digital) for under the $45 currently listed on Ebay, please send me a pm.

Thank You

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sat Sep 26, 2020 8:41 pm
by kiralon
ZorValachan wrote:I was hoping someone would be able to help me. I am starting a new game using 1st edition Palladium Role-Playing Game. It was the game that sucked me into Role-Playing back in the 1980s and I've been having an itch to go old school. Sadly, my 1st edition Monsters & Animals book was ruined while in storage and I cannot find a copy for a reasonable price. The pdf is not on Drivethrurpg. I do have 2nd edition.

I'm not asking for a copy or anything. I just have a very specific question about the Bearmen. I have a player that really wants to play a bearman. I do not feel that using 2nd edition attributes/stat block is right. I see that other races have adjustments in starting attribute rolls. I'm not asking for the full stat block, just If someone has both books, what are the differences? And are any of the special ability things in the 1st edition? Again, I'm not asking for the whole thing to be copied. I know that is probably breaking the forum rules. But changes would not get me anything without having the 2nd edition book also.

or, if someone might know where i could get a legitimate copy (physical or digital) for under the $45 currently listed on Ebay, please send me a pm.

Thank You

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Monsters-an ... ctupt=true
but id ask for a pic

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:33 am
by ZorValachan
kiralon wrote:
ZorValachan wrote:I was hoping someone would be able to help me. I am starting a new game using 1st edition Palladium Role-Playing Game. It was the game that sucked me into Role-Playing back in the 1980s and I've been having an itch to go old school. Sadly, my 1st edition Monsters & Animals book was ruined while in storage and I cannot find a copy for a reasonable price. The pdf is not on Drivethrurpg. I do have 2nd edition.

I'm not asking for a copy or anything. I just have a very specific question about the Bearmen. I have a player that really wants to play a bearman. I do not feel that using 2nd edition attributes/stat block is right. I see that other races have adjustments in starting attribute rolls. I'm not asking for the full stat block, just If someone has both books, what are the differences? And are any of the special ability things in the 1st edition? Again, I'm not asking for the whole thing to be copied. I know that is probably breaking the forum rules. But changes would not get me anything without having the 2nd edition book also.

or, if someone might know where i could get a legitimate copy (physical or digital) for under the $45 currently listed on Ebay, please send me a pm.

Thank You

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Monsters-an ... ctupt=true
but id ask for a pic


Thanks, but that one is second edition.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 4:37 pm
by Captain_Nibbz
So hopefully not breaking rules here but, the book lists attributes as follows:

Monsters & Animals pg 12 wrote:
Attributes: The number of six sided dice are designated.

IQ: 2
ME: 2
MA: 2
PS: 5
PP: 4
PE: 6
PB: 3
Spd: 3


Also, my version that I'm referencing is a third printing from 1989 with the reptile-looking dude holding a bloody axe. I have no idea if its first or second edition though.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 5:59 pm
by Library Ogre
Captain_Nibbz wrote:So hopefully not breaking rules here but, the book lists attributes as follows:

Monsters & Animals pg 12 wrote:
Attributes: The number of six sided dice are designated.

IQ: 2
ME: 2
MA: 2
PS: 5
PP: 4
PE: 6
PB: 3
Spd: 3


Also, my version that I'm referencing is a third printing from 1989 with the reptile-looking dude holding a bloody axe. I have no idea if its first or second edition though.


1989 is 1st edition, no question. 2nd edition came out in '96.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Sep 27, 2020 10:12 pm
by ZorValachan
Thank you very much! that is 1st. My second has different stats.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Mon Oct 05, 2020 9:57 pm
by ZorValachan
I was able to snag a $15 copy on ebay over the weekend. Thanks for everything. That will tide me over until i get it. I'm starting a new game. I was a Robotech fan and that RPG in the 1980s got me into gaming and 1st edition Palladium hooked me.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 12:28 am
by ZorValachan
apparently nothing much changed for the bearmen between editions. I got my book yesterday and Yin-Sloth today. So, once again my 1st edition collection is complete.

Re: 1st edition Monsters and Animals

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2020 6:37 am
by Halda
I do love the 1st ed version of Palladium Fantasy. Is there any plan to release this as a PDF? I am sure there are a number of people who would be keen for it.

It seems to be the most glaring one missing from the old books on DriveThru. Other than this one it is just Villains Unlimited 1st ed, Aliens Unlimited pre-revised and the pre-revised Heroes Unlimited that are missing. That said the differences in 1st ed Monsters and Animals is far greater.