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See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:52 pm
by Veknironth
Well let's take a moment to decide on one more Palladium editing error. The description for See Aura says that the power can be stopped by Mind Block. But under Mind Block it lists the abilities which can be blocked but See Aura is not one of them. So which is it?
-Vek
"Please Palladium books let us make an online document to clear all of this up."
Re: See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:47 am
by kiralon
As the particular powers description says mid block stops it from working, i would go with that.
Re: See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2024 7:17 am
by Grazzik
kiralon wrote: ↑Sun Sep 15, 2024 6:47 am
As the particular powers description says mid block stops it from working, i would go with that.
Kiralon is correct. Where the two instances exist, I'd always go with what is expressly written (i.e. a power does X) over what is inferred (i.e. a power is missing from a list).
Re: See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 8:58 am
by ShadowLogan
Veknironth wrote: ↑Sat Sep 14, 2024 9:52 pm
Well let's take a moment to decide on one more Palladium editing error. The description for See Aura says that the power can be stopped by Mind Block. But under Mind Block it lists the abilities which can be blocked but See Aura is not one of them. So which is it?
-Vek
"Please Palladium books let us make an online document to clear all of this up."
I would go with the See Aura text.
There is nothing in the Mind Block power (PF2E printing I have) that specifically states its status with the creature's actual aura so there is less of an actual conflict (ie MB and SA have statements in direct conflict) and more of a conflict of omission (as MB doesn't consider the aura at all).
I would add that MB text can be interpreted to include the subject's aura, or at the very least aspects of it, given it closes one off to the supernatural/psychic abilities both ways. The (various) text(s taken together) could indicate then that one's aura could be viewed as either supernatural in nature (lets face it is) and/or psychically generated.
Re: See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Tue Sep 17, 2024 1:44 pm
by Library Ogre
I'd compromise: You get some information through a mind block, but not nearly as much. I'd say that See Aura against a mind block would give you
*General level of experience
*Presence of psychic abilities
I think presence of psychic abilities is kind of a gimmee... mind block doesn't make you invisible, but it does prevent someone from reading you psychically... but it's still a psychic power creating the defense. Seeing a smoke bomb doesn't tell you what's inside the smoke, but it does tell you that someone set off a smoke bomb. The level of experience would come from how the defense itself looks; trying to overcome Psylocke's Mind Block should look substantially different than trying to overcome Phoenix's. You won't necessarily know WHY, but it's easier to break into Fort Knox than it is to storm the gates of Heaven.
Re: See Aura VS Mind Block
Posted: Mon Dec 23, 2024 12:41 am
by Marcethus
Don't have access to my books atm, but iirc Mind Block blocks See Aura from seeing the presence of psychic abilities via a person's aura. See Aura would still see all other parts of their aura.