deathkiss the demon sword

Svartalf · Unread post by **Svartalf** » Tue Jun 29, 2004 10:41 pm

if you were a bit more precise... like mentioning what book you're referring to, it might be easier to look it up and check.

Rpgpunk · Unread post by **Rpgpunk** » Wed Jun 30, 2004 3:58 am

It is also in the PFRPG 1st ed adventure of Gersidi.

Boethermsbrukan · Fri Jul 02, 2004 4:44 pm

RPGPunk, you wrote:
It is also in the PFRPG 1st ed adventure of Gersidi.

It's great to see that someone remembers that old gem of a dungeoncrawl. (The Tombs Of Gersidi, in the tail back of the Palladium 1st and 1st Revised RPG main books.) Even though it's not particularly advanced when it comes to some of the newer adventures (though quite well-written and -detailed), it's still going to be a favourite of mine. Deathkiss was the first PFRPG artifact/magic weapon I really had a thing for, even though its nature and origin was, perhaps, obscure, as I doubt Erick Wujcik intended (at first, perhaps) it to be the focal point of such a rich adventure (and not to mention all of the other loot in the 'venture).
Secondly, and this was even more of a treat: the head honcho of the operation that came to take another shot at gaining all of the loot in the Tombs had a bodyguard of twelve Wolfen mercenaries. To be honest, given the Tombs' location, finding even a single Wolfen with any frequency would be unlikely in that part of the Palladium world. That 12 of them had signed on as such is quite unusual, in my opinion.

As for the Library of Bletherad book, I'm afraid I don't have it myself. Got some catching up to do.

If further information on Deathkiss is found there, CrazedWerebeast666, I would suggest finding a copy of the PFRPG 1st Ed main book, read up on Deathkiss (and the detail is there) and then use the Library of Bletherad book as an impromptu update, with LoB's rules and details taking precedent if there are any conflicts. Since a 1st Ed. main book is hard to find, you might inquire with one of the Palladium staff about providing you with a copy or facsimile of sorts of the Tombs Of Gersidi adventure (as far as I know, I concur with RPGPunk- it isn't included with the 2nd ed. book). Given permission from Palladium Books to do so, I'd be happy to type you out a copy from my copy of the old version.

-Cheers, cubs!

-Boethermsbrukan :X)

Goliath Strongarm · Fri Jul 02, 2004 5:55 pm

Boethermsbrukan wrote:It's great to see that someone remembers that old gem of a dungeoncrawl.

Well, you're pretty new here, so I'll forgive you the fact that you dont know we discuss and mention Gersidi pretty often. PLENTY of us here remember, and love, that adventure.

Secondly, while it was a GREAT starting adventure under first edition, let me say this- if you convert it to second edition, do NOT use it for a low level group. Maybe an average of lvl 5, party of 4+ chars. Its too deadly.

--
GS
:bandit:

Boethermsbrukan · Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:02 pm

Goliath Strongarm, you wrote:
Well, you're pretty new here, so I'll forgive you the fact that you dont know we discuss and mention Gersidi pretty often. PLENTY of us here remember, and love, that adventure.

... I meant no offense by misrepresenting myself. I haven't any idea of exactly how many people- at least locally- have been playing the PFRPG prior to the 2nd Edition and conversely from then on.
Just wanted to join in, is all. I really am sorry about this.

-Boethermsbrukan

MADMANMIKE · Unread post by **MADMANMIKE** » Fri Jul 02, 2004 11:51 pm

..There was no hostility meant behind G.S.'s post.

..Here's a link to my attempt at revising and running Tombs of Gersidi

..Maybe it was the large number of players, or maybe it was just life, but as a play by post, the game was great, and kinda stopped as soon as some of the characters finally made it to the Tombs...

..Hopefully I'll get back into it sometime soon..

-Mike <8[

MADMANMIKE · Unread post by **MADMANMIKE** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:20 am

malefic wrote:Yeah hopefully you will Mike! Even though he didn't like my characters blind hatred for sub-humans I thought the game was pretty fun and it did have a whole lot of characters.

So Gersidi is an old gem huh? What about Arms of Nargash Tor? I took my used and abused copy up to Origins and had Kevin sign it like the true fanboy I am

..Ah, the Arms. Picked up my copy for 5 bucks before I knew anything about the game. That's a great adventure...

-Mike >8]

Boethermsbrukan · Sat Jul 03, 2004 10:30 am

MadManMike, you wrote:
..There was no hostility meant behind G.S.'s post.

Mike;

I realized that a few minutes after posting my last message; didn't mean to overreact the way I did. I was feeling a bit charged up, was tired and feeling kind of vulnerable, and I took what he said way too personally. I apologize to everyone for my inconsideration; Goliath, I hope my indiscretion and carelessness won't spoil future converses between us- I look forward to discussing the Tombs with you! :oops:

Thanks to everyone in here for their patience with me. While I'm on the subject of Gersidi, would anyone else like to contribute to sharing their thoughts on the adventure if they're familiar with it?:)

Peace out, cubcrew!

-Boethermsbrukan

Lukterran · Unread post by **Lukterran** » Sat Jul 03, 2004 5:21 pm

Deathkiss is a great sword. I love stabbing myself over and over with it. It feels so wonderful. Wonderful, wonderful pain.

That sword has S&M writen all over it.

Goliath Strongarm · Sun Jul 04, 2004 2:32 am

malefic wrote: You may have given G.S. a guilt trip but I doubt it.

Are yuo trying to say I have no soul? That I never feel guitly???

Hrmm.. actually, that would explain a lot...

Anyways... nope, dont feel guilty. There was no hostility meant in my original post, was just a general *poke* in the ribs...

As for AoNT.. didnt like it as much as ToG. But, I still have it, of course..

--
GS
:bandit:

Boethermsbrukan · Sun Jul 04, 2004 8:52 pm

Malefic, you spoke enthusiantly:
This made me laugh for some reason but not in a bad way. You may have given G.S. a guilt trip but I doubt it. If you plan on heading over to the Sound Off boards I would recommend developing a little bit thicker skin first. Like G.S. said your a newbie so you will figure out who the cretins are sooner or later.

Malefic,

I'm glad it gave you a laugh; I enjoy making friends laugh (intentionally or otherwise, as long as it's all in fun).

I certainly didn't mean to put Goliath on the spot; I humbly admit that I was thin-skinned- and occasionaly unpleasant a person- enough in my younger years that I _did_ do that sometimes. but not anymore.

No worries. I agree with you about the Sound Off boards (I'm guessing those are the, or some of the, flameboards here in the Forums?) if they're what your intimating.

Are you planning on playing in Goliath's new game, by any chance?
Thanks as always for the post!

Goliath, you purported:
Anyways... nope, dont feel guilty. There was no hostility meant in my original post, was just a general *poke* in the ribs...

Goliath;

I most certainly am glad I didn't manage to get under your skin, and looking back with a more balanced viewpoint on the message, I agree that it was merely an informative and gentle poke in the ribs.

I'm just as capable of being nasty as anyone else, but I can see quite obviously you weren't being so. Thanks for putting up with my thin skin, as Malefic said- I've been working on thickening it just a bit, but haven't had the best of luck. <:)

Looking forward to your next post, and of course your email about the game you're running in the next couple of days!

-Boethermsbrukan, drawn and quartered. gently.

PS: I don't know who's been reading the Palladium Fan Art thread since my last post (it seems to be the most recent one), so I thought I'd say so here: I managed to rev myself up into tweaking and uploading the pictures of Boethermsbrukan I drew (and in one case, coloured by computer) to my Elfwood account (I can repost the page's URL if anyone'd like). They may not be up for a week or two; there's a huge backlog of unprocessed 'tickets' since the server change a few months back, and I'm at close to the end of that lineup as of last night.

Goliath Strongarm · Mon Jul 05, 2004 2:19 am

PbP just never worked for me. You dont REALLY get the player interaction which is so key to a good game. Of course, thats all IMHO.

Sorry Mal.

--
GS
:bandit:

Bubba Ho-Tep. If you haven't seen it, shame on you!

Veknironth · Unread post by **Veknironth** » Mon Jul 05, 2004 3:23 am

Well, first of all, let's address the original question. I have no idea who harrowheart is.

Now, on to the more interesting tangents. The PBP game Mike was running was fantastic. I think it was more the events in Mike's life, because we were losing characters left and right. There was an issue with that Necromancer, but what did he expect?

As for hurting GS's feelings, you have to be kidding. That guy is more emotionally stunted than a vulcan robot. You can't hurt his feelings, all you can do is make him mad. Watch this...Hey, GS have you seen the press release about the Old Kingdom Mountains books?

-Vek
"Pulling your leg GS."

Goliath Strongarm · Mon Jul 05, 2004 7:38 am

Veknironth wrote:As for hurting GS's feelings, you have to be kidding. That guy is more emotionally stunted than a vulcan robot.

Insulting me in such a way has no logical purpose. It will not provoke emotions that will lead me out of control, nor will it have any results which can benifit you in any way, shape, or form. So PHHTTTBBB!!!! *sticks his tongue out like a little kid*

Actually, I am not emotionally stunted. I laugh. I cry. I love. I just also happen to be near impossible to emotionally injure, unless you are a woman who I have professed my undying love to. I which case, Im a bullseye.

Veknironth wrote: You can't hurt his feelings, all you can do is make him mad. Watch this...Hey, GS have you seen the press release about the Old Kingdom Mountains books?

*Turns into, as Nexxy would put it, a raving loonie, spitting curses out randomly as he twitches and convulses, shouting out plagues upon Kevin S.*

--
GS
:bandit:

Goliath Strongarm · Mon Jul 05, 2004 4:25 pm

Bull Mal.

Ive been waiting for OK books since they were FIRST offered, back under 1st edition. And they were promised LONG before wolfen wars.

--
GS
:bandit:

Veknironth · Unread post by **Veknironth** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:57 am

Well, I have to go with GS on this one. Not fair making me choose between 2 of my favorite posters. The Old Kingdom books have been promised for years. Ok, so both have. At least we hope that our appearing in Origins and playing in the game shows there is support for the line. I hope.

-Vek
"What was this topic about?"

Rpgpunk · Unread post by **Rpgpunk** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 6:06 pm

I think it was Deathkiss, but there are other great things to be found in ToG.

Like the Chaos sword, and the Chalice of Dragonwright.

Now the Chalice that is in Gersidi is different that is mentioned in Dragons & Gods book.

Example:

ToG: Chalice of Dragonwright has scratched into it a sliver dragon (Korameth)

D&G: Chalice of Dragonwright is said to be buried with Azphir, an early messiah of Dragonwright, in someplace called the Fields of Necrophant near Mount Nimro. This chalice can only be held by someone blessed by Kym-nark-mar.

Now with this being said are there two other chalices out there linked to Zandragal and Styphon?

Veknironth · Unread post by **Veknironth** » Tue Jul 06, 2004 7:11 pm

Well, that Doubling Sword of Chaos is an awfully powerful weapon. While it can only do 2 points of damage, it can also hand out a whopping 64 points of damage just as often. 64 points of damage is a lot from one weapon. I wonder if strength bonuses are added to that. I need to check my old 1st ed book.

-Vek
"Hmm, doesn't say."

Drakenred®™© · Thu Jul 08, 2004 5:32 pm

Lukterran wrote:Deathkiss is a great sword. I love stabbing myself over and over with it. It feels so wonderful. Wonderful, wonderful pain.

That sword has S&M writen all over it.

Stop trying to get on my good side.

:twisted:

Suicycho · Unread post by **Suicycho** » Sun Aug 01, 2004 11:52 pm

malefic wrote: Like G.S. said your a newbie so you will figure out who the cretins are sooner or later.

"Hello my name is Malefic and I am a cretin"
-Malefic

I'm a cretin too. :lol:

Lord Malachdrim · Mon Aug 02, 2004 12:36 pm

4 chalices of dragonwright, each with slightly different abilities....finding and recovering all of them could make a decent campaign, or at least a long term goal in a larger campaign of restoreing dragonwright, or such.

Zenvis · Unread post by **Zenvis** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 8:33 pm

Boethermsbrukan wrote:
RPGPunk, you wrote:
It is also in the PFRPG 1st ed adventure of Gersidi.

It's great to see that someone remembers that old gem of a dungeoncrawl. (The Tombs Of Gersidi, in the tail back of the Palladium 1st and 1st Revised RPG main books.) Even though it's not particularly advanced when it comes to some of the newer adventures (though quite well-written and -detailed), it's still going to be a favourite of mine. Deathkiss was the first PFRPG artifact/magic weapon I really had a thing for, even though its nature and origin was, perhaps, obscure, as I doubt Erick Wujcik intended (at first, perhaps) it to be the focal point of such a rich adventure (and not to mention all of the other loot in the 'venture).
Secondly, and this was even more of a treat: the head honcho of the operation that came to take another shot at gaining all of the loot in the Tombs had a bodyguard of twelve Wolfen mercenaries. To be honest, given the Tombs' location, finding even a single Wolfen with any frequency would be unlikely in that part of the Palladium world. That 12 of them had signed on as such is quite unusual, in my opinion.

As for the Library of Bletherad book, I'm afraid I don't have it myself. Got some catching up to do. If further information on Deathkiss is found there, CrazedWerebeast666, I would suggest finding a copy of the PFRPG 1st Ed main book, read up on Deathkiss (and the detail is there) and then use the Library of Bletherad book as an impromptu update, with LoB's rules and details taking precedent if there are any conflicts. Since a 1st Ed. main book is hard to find, you might inquire with one of the Palladium staff about providing you with a copy or facsimile of sorts of the Tombs Of Gersidi adventure (as far as I know, I concur with RPGPunk- it isn't included with the 2nd ed. book). Given permission from Palladium Books to do so, I'd be happy to type you out a copy from my copy of the old version.

-Cheers, cubs!

-Boethermsbrukan :X)

Where is that jem now?

Rpgpunk · Unread post by **Rpgpunk** » Mon Aug 02, 2004 11:02 pm

Which jem?

Palladium 1st Ed. or Deathkiss?

Dr. Doom III · Sun Aug 08, 2004 11:58 pm

Ah Deathkiss.
Doom used that baby to pin his character to the World Tree.
Felt great and thanks to Mindprancer no chance of dying. :-D

Killer Cyborg · Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:38 pm

Lukterran wrote:Deathkiss is a great sword. I love stabbing myself over and over with it. It feels so wonderful. Wonderful, wonderful pain.

That sword has S&M writen all over it.

One of our characters who owned the sword got addicted to cutting himself with it.

Killer Cyborg · Tue Sep 07, 2004 8:41 pm

Dr. Doom III wrote:Ah Deathkiss.
Doom used that baby to pin his character to the World Tree.
Felt great and thanks to Mindprancer no chance of dying.

Good call!
I'm also linked with Mindprancer, and we have Deathkiss in storage as we make our way to the Tree.
I'll have to retrieve it before we get there.

BTW, what did you do about the World Serpent?

dark brandon · Unread post by **dark brandon** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 2:38 am

Dr. Doom III wrote:Ah Deathkiss.
Doom used that baby to pin his character to the World Tree.
Felt great and thanks to Mindprancer no chance of dying.

ok, ok, kudos to you.

Zer0 Kay · Unread post by **Zer0 Kay** » Wed Sep 08, 2004 3:31 am

Boethermsbrukan wrote:
RPGPunk, you wrote:
It is also in the PFRPG 1st ed adventure of Gersidi.

It's great to see that someone remembers that old gem of a dungeoncrawl. (The Tombs Of Gersidi, in the tail back of the Palladium 1st and 1st Revised RPG main books.) Even though it's not particularly advanced when it comes to some of the newer adventures (though quite well-written and -detailed), it's still going to be a favourite of mine. Deathkiss was the first PFRPG artifact/magic weapon I really had a thing for, even though its nature and origin was, perhaps, obscure, as I doubt Erick Wujcik intended (at first, perhaps) it to be the focal point of such a rich adventure (and not to mention all of the other loot in the 'venture).
Secondly, and this was even more of a treat: the head honcho of the operation that came to take another shot at gaining all of the loot in the Tombs had a bodyguard of twelve Wolfen mercenaries. To be honest, given the Tombs' location, finding even a single Wolfen with any frequency would be unlikely in that part of the Palladium world. That 12 of them had signed on as such is quite unusual, in my opinion.

As for the Library of Bletherad book, I'm afraid I don't have it myself. Got some catching up to do. If further information on Deathkiss is found there, CrazedWerebeast666, I would suggest finding a copy of the PFRPG 1st Ed main book, read up on Deathkiss (and the detail is there) and then use the Library of Bletherad book as an impromptu update, with LoB's rules and details taking precedent if there are any conflicts. Since a 1st Ed. main book is hard to find, you might inquire with one of the Palladium staff about providing you with a copy or facsimile of sorts of the Tombs Of Gersidi adventure (as far as I know, I concur with RPGPunk- it isn't included with the 2nd ed. book). Given permission from Palladium Books to do so, I'd be happy to type you out a copy from my copy of the old version.

-Cheers, cubs!

-Boethermsbrukan :X)

So you don't like the Amber sword of doubling...The only weapon to use a backgammon doubling dice?

Dr. Doom III · Thu Sep 09, 2004 10:41 am

Killer Cyborg wrote:Good call!
I'm also linked with Mindprancer, and we have Deathkiss in storage as we make our way to the Tree.
I'll have to retrieve it before we get there.

BTW, what did you do about the World Serpent?

The tree is as big as a mountain and the serpent lives in the roots.
We went high up and avoided large explosions.

Dr. Doom III · Unread post by **Dr. Doom III** » Thu Sep 09, 2004 6:07 pm

Tyciol wrote:Where can I find this Mindprancer thing? Does it protect you from Deathkiss' soul drain and blood loss?

By the way, since it's a millenium tree, no matter where you stab yourself to it, it's going to explode. Odin did it because he has tons of MDC.

Adventures in the Northern Wilderness.
It grant's the owner immortality. The catch being you get no immunity to ageing or regeneration. You can just never die.
You find it on the former owners still living husk of a body with a tree grown up around it.

Dr. Doom III · Unread post by **Dr. Doom III** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 8:54 am

Tyciol wrote:Perhaps it might keep the person's body alive when their soul is taken out. Self zombification!

Immortality (the you just can't die kind) is immunity to soul drinking.
If it were not then I would think that insane dragon (Apepi(sp?)) would be dead by now.

Dr. Doom III · Unread post by **Dr. Doom III** » Fri Sep 10, 2004 7:39 pm

Tyciol wrote:I think that's probably because he's a god, aren't gods immune to souldrinking, or have huge bonuses against it? He could have just passed all of his savings throws.

Actually he's just a member of a previously unknown species of Dragon who was given a potion by Set.

He could never have rolled a bad save over his thousands of years of life?

You can't kill what can't die and Soul Drinking kills the victim.

Dr. Doom III · Unread post by **Dr. Doom III** » Sun Sep 12, 2004 5:58 pm

Tyciol wrote:As much as I'm sure Apepi has been stabbed, rune weapons aren't a common thing to be stabbed by, especially soul drinking ones, which are even more rare. I'm sure he is somewhat resistant to it. Even if he's not, he may have just been lucky. Tis no proof I say!

"Killed" numerous times by good Egyption gods which have sould drinkers and would love to get rid of him forever.

MADMANMIKE · Unread post by **MADMANMIKE** » Tue Sep 14, 2004 11:24 am

Twitchfingers wrote:Well speaking of Death kiss, do you know where I could get this adventure besides in the first edition book? Download perhaps?

..It hasn't been redone or printed since the first edition revised.

..I started running it online in order to do and playtests a revision, but actually took several months of play to get them to the Tombs, at which point things kinda fell apart.

..I need to get around to reviving that game soon... Just wanting to get my Hero Dawn game up and running first.

..Here's a link; most of the threads are archived so anyone can read them, but like I said, they didn't reach the tombs...

PF2E-The Tombs of Gersidi

Marcethus · Unread post by **Marcethus** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:55 am

did you all forget about the demon slaying hammer in the ToG?

Goliath Strongarm · Fri Sep 17, 2004 2:18 pm

Marcethus wrote:did you all forget about the demon slaying hammer in the ToG?

You mean the sledgehammer that had the symbol of Lopnel the Red on it?

Dont think many of us can forget THAT nice little toy... Last time I had it (as a PC), it was lost in Hell, when the entire group died... LOTS of demon/deevil slaying items were lost that adventure

--
GS
:bandit:

Astroconch · Unread post by **Astroconch** » Fri Sep 17, 2004 5:09 pm

Yeah Mike you need to get that up and running again. Jester who were you playing in that game?

Veknironth · Unread post by **Veknironth** » Sat Sep 18, 2004 11:21 pm

Well, I'd certainly like to start that game up again.

-Vek
"Anyone know who I was?"