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TechnoMancer wrote: humanish 9' genetic enhanced spac.. err... um..
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return home to the Space Wolv...err... his group.. or cleanse and establish this planet for the Emporer.
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for some reason I cant tell if he is serious or tryint to pull off a dirty joke at our expence.

Hmm... for the Jedi, which I can see is what you're getting at... it's fairly easily done in Rifts, just have him/ her make a character with a TW Lightblade. Perhaps trhe character is a crazy who watched too many pre-Rifts movies before or after his/ her MOM implantation...
As for the Space marine, interesting concept really... I think the CS might hire such a person as a mercenary, since he'd be so hard-core anti-mutant and anti-non-human.

ROFLOL... the CSn hire that one? heck, they'd nuke him for a rifts spawned monster before they could ever know he admired them

I've had my players do as such...play characters from other "realities", and it ticks me off something awful... ...I didn't buy 30+ books just to search the web for stats or waste time "converting" some concept. If anything, they'd better have everything already sorted out and ready to present...compatible to Rifts.

TechnoMancer wrote:Now way would the CS hire a 9' tall human looking thing with two hearts, a solid bone rib cage, and acid/poison for spit, who has Independant functioning brain halves, can breath toxic gas as if it were air, rapid heals, can have wierd psychic powers/magic, and well is suffering from a genetic flaw that gives them wolfish traits.

They did and would think him a monster and that's shoot on site.

As a side note: The reason I didn't say exactly what they wanted to run is that some boards get ban happy if people mention other games.

And of course the CS just magically "knows" that the fellow has two hearts et cetera, when they meet him he's in PA, which isn't too dissimilar from everything else in Rifts... besides, they DO make use of "undersirable" mercenaries from time to time...

Vrykolas2k wrote:As for the Space marine, interesting concept really... I think the CS might hire such a person as a mercenary, since he'd be so hard-core anti-mutant and anti-non-human.

Hmmm... I might have mis-read it, but I could have sworn he was inferring a Clan Elemental (genetically enhanced oversized battle armoured infantry) from FASA's Battletech.

No need to try to convert a Jedi. Especially since conversion discussions are banned. Why convert when you have Cyber Knights, Psi Warriors, Psi Druids, Mystic Ninjas, Mystics ect?

No need to try to convert a Jedi. Especially since conversion discussions are banned. Why convert when you have Cyber Knights, Psi Warriors, Psi Druids, Mystic Ninjas, Mystics ect?

I've never had any of my players want to play something from other games/sources, but I have had some that were trying to emulate them based upon Golden Age artifacts they found/had seen (case in point a Crazy running around with a TW Flaming Sword claiming he was a Jedi, or a super character with Magnetism painting his armor to resemble a certain Marvelous Master of Magnetism).

I guess I don't have much problem with this because most folks know I'm not a big fan of conversions... but that I will allow characters who try to imitate or parody existing characters.

A standard Msytic from the core book can do wonders if a character wants to play something similar to a Jedi. Make him someone who watched Star Wars too many times as a kid, and it led him to focus his abilities in a similar way. At lvl 4 your looking at something like this for powers. Give him a Light Blade and your set without converting a character, or using a net occ or anything.
lvl 1
Clairvoyance
Exorcism
Sixth Sense
Empathy
Intuitive Combat
Mind Block

Resist Fatigue
Bioregeneration

lvl 4
Telekinesis

lvl1
Befuddle
Levitation
Death Trance
Globe of Daylight
Manipulate Objects
Concealment

lvl2
Impervious to Fire
Impervious to Poison
Invisibility Simple
Light Healing

lvl3
Charismatic Aura
Deflect
Armor of Ithan

lvl 4
Repel Animals
Multiple Images

Nice RockJock, though the idea of a Crazy with a TW Lightblade who watched Star Wars too many times just amuses me so much more.

Vrykolas2k wrote:Nice RockJock, though the idea of a Crazy with a TW Lightblade who watched Star Wars too many times just amuses me so much more.

Yeah, there's much more opportunity for good psychotic roleplay with a Crazy... he can be sitting calm and serene 'instructing' others that 'A Jedi uses his powers for knowledge and defense, never for attack' and then suddenly draws his pistol and blasts someone's boom box because he also can't stand music.

I was going more along the lines of the Ley Line Walker in Mercs that has a thing for The Shadow. My point was if you have a player who wants a character with similar abilities that is easy enough to do with current occs. If they want on the background just make them nuts and think the movie or whatever is real, or make them a d-bee from some other dimension where a Mystic, or Psi-Warrior, or whatever is just like that.

RockJock wrote:I was going more along the lines of the Ley Line Walker in Mercs that has a thing for The Shadow. My point was if you have a player who wants a character with similar abilities that is easy enough to do with current occs. If they want on the background just make them nuts and think the movie or whatever is real, or make them a d-bee from some other dimension where a Mystic, or Psi-Warrior, or whatever is just like that.

That guy's a good example of what I mean by emulation rather than conversion. Someone who is exposed to a Pre-Rifts character and says "Hey, that's a pretty good idea." He/she captures the 'essential feel' of the character but since he/she isn't supposed to actually BE the original (even if he/she believes himself/herself to be) then it's not a conversion.

Another good example of the blurring of the lines between fictional and 'real-life' characters is over in the New West book where it describes Sundance (the bona fide Sundance Kid rifted into Rifts Earth). A lot of people don't believe he's the genuine article because he doesn't know anything about John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, the Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, or Hopalong Cassidy. Therefore, they believe that he's merely pretending to be the real Sundance Kid much in the same way as the "Shadow-Man" RockJock mentioned in Mercenaries.

Uncle Servo wrote:

RockJock wrote:I was going more along the lines of the Ley Line Walker in Mercs that has a thing for The Shadow. My point was if you have a player who wants a character with similar abilities that is easy enough to do with current occs. If they want on the background just make them nuts and think the movie or whatever is real, or make them a d-bee from some other dimension where a Mystic, or Psi-Warrior, or whatever is just like that.

That guy's a good example of what I mean by emulation rather than conversion. Someone who is exposed to a Pre-Rifts character and says "Hey, that's a pretty good idea." He/she captures the 'essential feel' of the character but since he/she isn't supposed to actually BE the original (even if he/she believes himself/herself to be) then it's not a conversion.

Another good example of the blurring of the lines between fictional and 'real-life' characters is over in the New West book where it describes Sundance (the bona fide Sundance Kid rifted into Rifts Earth). A lot of people don't believe he's the genuine article because he doesn't know anything about John Wayne, Clint Eastwood, the Lone Ranger, Roy Rogers, or Hopalong Cassidy. Therefore, they believe that he's merely pretending to be the real Sundance Kid much in the same way as the "Shadow-Man" RockJock mentioned in Mercenaries.

Actually that would be the Lone Star book...
At any rate, ya capturing the "feel" is what I was talking about. Perhaps the Crazy who thinks he/ she is a Jedi and follows the Code {because they saw it in a book, video game, movie or whatever} is actually a Pre-Rifts human who somehow got Rifted to the current time and uses that identity to cope with what has happened...

in our group, we have a guy who's character comes from a town where they deified Tony Danza after they found some 'Whos the Boss' DVDs in a bunker. He runs around telling everyone about "The Holy Danza". Every time he rolls a natural 20, he proclaims it as a gift from the Danza.

And we have a Crazy who thinks he's Superman. Even though he can't fly or use lazer eyes or x-ray vision.

Vrykolas2k wrote:Actually that would be the Lone Star book...

You know, you're absolutely right. Lone Star deals with the Pecos Empire more so than New West. My bad.

Tyciol wrote:Well I do know you don't have to be psychic or magic to use a light sabre (Ford used it) but that might be like Stormspire's weapons with PPE batteries. The whole idea of using a gem to power it, and the knight constructing it himself, does sound sort of TWish to me.

In the West End games system ANYONE could use a lightsabre, but if you weren't a Jedi you had a good chance of hacking something off by mistake if you tried to use it for anything more then the most basic of moves.


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Selina wrote:

RoadWarriorFWaNK wrote:in our group, we have a guy who's character comes from a town where they deified Tony Danza after they found some 'Whos the Boss' DVDs in a bunker.

Somebody put out "Who's the Boss?" on DVD?!?

We must find that person and kill him.

yeah, actually it just hit the stores. i think its just the first season OF THE HOLY SCRIPTURES.
He also sculpts figurines of The Danza out of plastique and gives them to people on the street as gifts.
and he got into a theological discussion with a Mystic Knight on who was a more powerful god, Utu or Tony Danza.
my nutty nutty group.