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Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 6:40 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
never heard of it. . . :?

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:03 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
ah, there's one guy here on the forums with full autisem.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:11 pm
by MADMANMIKE
..That's not funny Nek.

..Asperger's Syndrome gives you a better ability to envision the setting, understand the rules (through mathematics) and for the most part retain the information in the books.

..The part of role playing that is difficult is the social interaction, but then, it's the perfect vehicle to it. If you share an interest in the game, you already have a good foundation for a friendship. That's usually what it takes to make the typical social faux paux's of the Autistic slide off your companions like water off a ducks back. Eventually interacting through the game can help you become better at "normal" social interactions. That's a somewhat ironic fact as "normals" who play generally have the games as a reason not to learn better social skills.

..So get into it. It's fun and educational.

-Mike >8]

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:19 pm
by MADMANMIKE
Nekira Sudacne wrote:never heard of it. . . :?


..It also povides a greater capacity for creative deception... :-?

-Mike

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:54 pm
by Adam of the Old Kingdom
you can read more about it here, or goodle search for aspergers.

My eldest son has it.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 7:56 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
MADMANMIKE wrote:..That's not funny Nek.

..Asperger's Syndrome gives you a better ability to envision the setting, understand the rules (through mathematics) and for the most part retain the information in the books.

..The part of role playing that is difficult is the social interaction, but then, it's the perfect vehicle to it. If you share an interest in the game, you already have a good foundation for a friendship. That's usually what it takes to make the typical social faux paux's of the Autistic slide off your companions like water off a ducks back. Eventually interacting through the game can help you become better at "normal" social interactions. That's a somewhat ironic fact as "normals" who play generally have the games as a reason not to learn better social skills.

..So get into it. It's fun and educational.

-Mike >8]


I wasn't talking about you MADMANMIKE. I was talking about another poster altogeather.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 8:35 pm
by grandmaster z0b
Asperges syndrome is a form of Autism which is now refered to as a spectrum disorder. That means one could either have it extremely mildly or to an extreme disorder where one has barely no social skills.
I really don't see what it would have to do with Rifts.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:00 pm
by MADMANMIKE
z0b wrote:Asperges syndrome is a form of Autism which is now refered to as a spectrum disorder. That means one could either have it extremely mildly or to an extreme disorder where one has barely no social skills.
I really don't see what it would have to do with Rifts.


..He's probably asking because he did a search on Asperger's and found the threads here where it's been mentioned. As I said, role playing games are a perfect tool for overcoming some of the aspects of Aspergers that deal with socialization.

..Nek, you've admitted that it sounds like something you might have in the past and then you tell this guy you've never heard of it. Deception is not ammusing when you are dealing with someone you do not know.

-Mike

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:35 pm
by grandmaster z0b
People with Asperges are often (but not always) good with numbers and details, so are usually good with computers and RPGs. In fact some have refered to it (unfairly) as nerds disorder. Many people go through their entire lives without realising they have it, why some things seems obvious to them but not others while they get confused by subtle social interaction.
I think Vanguard said he/she had Asperges.

An interesting note about the test for Asperges is that it is usually an IQ test. People with this syndrome will do really well in certain areas and low in others but will often have a high IQ.

If a character in Rifts had it they may have a high IQ but low MA.

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 9:56 pm
by MADMANMIKE
..Yes, back in my day, we were just called Nerds and Geeks. I have it, my parents both have it, and all the indicators are there that my three year old has it. It's pretty mild for us though, so we get the advantages, high IQ, good with numbers, phenomenal memory in areas we're interested in, and the downsides are managable and even possible to overcome.

..People would never know if they met me now at 30 years old that I have it if I didn't tell them, although people that knew me as a teenager would instantly think of me if they read the symptoms.

..Take that to heart, abraham, I've got a wife and two kids, good friends and a good job. There is room for us in the world. Maybe not as the leaders many of us feel we should be (can you say "Megalomaniac"? :D ) but certianly with a large measure of happiness and satisfaction.

..And I attribute my climb from the depths of social ineptitude largely to Palladium Books RPGs.

-Mike >8]

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:05 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
MADMANMIKE wrote:
z0b wrote:Asperges syndrome is a form of Autism which is now refered to as a spectrum disorder. That means one could either have it extremely mildly or to an extreme disorder where one has barely no social skills.
I really don't see what it would have to do with Rifts.


..He's probably asking because he did a search on Asperger's and found the threads here where it's been mentioned. As I said, role playing games are a perfect tool for overcoming some of the aspects of Aspergers that deal with socialization.

..Nek, you've admitted that it sounds like something you might have in the past and then you tell this guy you've never heard of it. Deception is not ammusing when you are dealing with someone you do not know.

-Mike


I wasn't lying.

OH. you told me in another thread, right.

I wasn't lying. I had honestly forgot. I vaugly recoginised the word, but did not remember it's meaning. I see a lot of word that seem familiar I don't remember.

I have a bad memory, ok?

sorry :(

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:17 pm
by MADMANMIKE
Nekira Sudacne wrote:I wasn't lying.

OH. you told me in another thread, right.

I wasn't lying. I had honestly forgot. I vaugly recoginised the word, but did not remember it's meaning. I see a lot of word that seem familiar I don't remember.

I have a bad memory, ok?

sorry :(


..Bad memory? lol! You quote the rules here better than any of us. How's that a bad memory?

..Oh, but if you actually do have a bad memory for things you aren't interested in, then it's further evidence that you probably have Asperger's Syndrome.

-Mike >8]

Posted: Wed Sep 01, 2004 10:36 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
MADMANMIKE wrote:
Nekira Sudacne wrote:I wasn't lying.

OH. you told me in another thread, right.

I wasn't lying. I had honestly forgot. I vaugly recoginised the word, but did not remember it's meaning. I see a lot of word that seem familiar I don't remember.

I have a bad memory, ok?

sorry :(


..Bad memory? lol! You quote the rules here better than any of us. How's that a bad memory?

..Oh, but if you actually do have a bad memory for things you aren't interested in, then it's further evidence that you probably have Asperger's Syndrome.

-Mike >8]


I can only remember rules I'm interested in.

I can't remember a thing I had in one of my classes today.

and some days I can damn near quote the textbook back to you.

and no, I wasn't interested in it, just mildly amused.

online tests have told me I have a dozen different psycological problems. I never took any of them seriously.

Posted: Thu Sep 02, 2004 4:43 am
by MADMANMIKE
..Asperger's Syndrome isn't psychological, it's physiological. Drugs won't help it, like they will psychological problems. It is however, commonly misdiagnosed as Manic Depression/Bi-polar, Paranoid Schizophrenia, Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, and the dubious Attention Defficit Hyperactivity Disorder, among others.

..Persistant dedication to facing your "differences" and overcoming them is the only way to go. Councilling might help this if the councilor understands Asperger's, but I wouldn't recommend that as they generally see these problems as illnesses to be cured, not behaviors to control.

..CP, I imagine you are the one she was refering to, and she was inaccurate in saying you were fully autistic, as that would put you in a more severe category.

-Mike >8]

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:25 pm
by Svartalf
Nekira Sudacne wrote:never heard of it. . . :?


if you know Madman Mike and CyberPaladin85, you ought to.
it's related to autism, far as I know, but I'm hardly an expert

EDIT ... oh well... 'twill teach me to open it before reading the whole thread

Posted: Sat Sep 04, 2004 2:47 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
actually, no, I wasn't thinkin of CP. someone else, who hardly ever posts.