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Dual Classing Rules

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Can someone post the rules for dual classing? I believe they are supposed to be in Adventures on the High Seas, at least the Dragons and Gods book claims they are. I can't find them in any of the rifts books and can't find anyone who carries AHS. Specifically I am interested in what happens with psionics and magic abilities, do you keep them as is? Can you add new spells later? What level can you dual class at? Can you be a first level mind melter, first level CK?
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It is in High Sea, and is called Multi-Classing.

Generally, it is "officially" discouraged. :thwak: :wink:

You can do it as soon as you have enough XP to reach 2nd level.

Once you leave your original OCC, you must do certain things depending on what you are going into. You then advance in your new OCC only. If at a later time, you decide to return to your abandoned first class, you permanently give up the ability to advance in your new OCC. However, if you were a mage to start with, you can learn new spells, you just can't advance in level as a mage. After all, even a 1st level mage can learn a 15th level spell. Being able to cast it, now... that's a different story. :frust:

Oh...incidentally. There are about three other threads active right now dealing with just this topic. :lol:

Essentially, make the decision when you have the XP to level-up, "loose" ALL earned XPs, and start at 0 (or -2000). Suffer from a 50% XP penalty for the rest of your new career. :shock:

Kevin himself discouraged this when he wrote the rule and put it in the book. He did it only because so many people were always pleading for it.

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Incidentally...there are specific mechanics about it in RIFTS as well... When I walk in the door at home (assuming I remember :rolleyes: ) I'll check and give you a quick precis.

What I can tell you right now, if you're a Juicer or Crazy going 'borg, you freeze as is, drop to "0" XP, and advance normally as a 'borg. While you don't gain the OCC skills of the 'borg, your old skills "unfreeze" when your level as a 'borg reaches that of your juicer/crazy level, and progresses normally from there. However, you can now only opt for new skills as a 'borg...skills available to the juicer or crazy but not a 'borg are now no longer available to you (although any you already have are NOT removed from your character's skill set).
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Borast wrote:Generally, it is "officially" discouraged.


**** on what's discouraged, it is either a rule or it is not.

Borast wrote:Essentially, make the decision when you have the XP to level-up, "loose" ALL earned XPs, and start at 0 (or -2000). Suffer from a 50% XP penalty for the rest of your new career.


Ok, this is actually useful. So a character that changes classes is always at 50% xp from that point on? Even if he switches back to his original class? Is this in High Seas, because it is not in the borg example given in the Rifts book?

Borast wrote:Incidentally...there are specific mechanics about it in RIFTS as well... When I walk in the door at home (assuming I remember I'll check and give you a quick precis.


The "mechanics" in rifts you are referring to are for going to a borg, which is documented and I can easily read. It never mentions a 50% xp penalty though. Plus as I stated earlier, I am more interested in what happens to magic and psionic abilities. From what I gather from your post, they remain unchanged, unless the new class says something specifically like all PPE is drained away or the equivalent.

Seems to me like changing classes would be a more common thing in a realistic world. Not sure why all the secrecy over the mechanics of it.
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You're right, there was a thread in the GM section which I don't usually read.

viewtopic.php?t=21491&highlight=reclass

There really isn't a concensus on this one it looks like, not even many logical ideas on the matter. Most common view seems to be "discourage it so I don't have to think about it".
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For anyone else who wants to know this seems semi-official

http://www.palladium-megaverse.com/cutt ... alocc.html
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