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Undead Slayer Ley Line Walker?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:24 am
by Athos
I am getting ready to GM a new campaign, and I generally don't mind players having really strong characters, but this is one I have not thought of before. Has anyone ever heard of an Undead Slayer reclassing to a Ley Line Walker? Is this even possible?

Please don't spot off crap about I don't have to allow this or that, no ****, I have DM'd since the 70's, I know what I want to allow or not and why. I am just interested if this would be a legal character that is all.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:39 am
by Nekira Sudacne
no.

having more than 6 tattoos completely destorys any posibility of being any class other than an T-man.

the Undead slayer has 18 tattoos.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 11:45 am
by Athos
Thanks for the quick help.

Re: Undead Slayer Ley Line Walker?

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 12:14 pm
by Dustin Fireblade
danboals wrote:I am getting ready to GM a new campaign, and I generally don't mind players having really strong characters, but this is one I have not thought of before. Has anyone ever heard of an Undead Slayer reclassing to a Ley Line Walker? Is this even possible?

Please don't spot off crap about I don't have to allow this or that, no ****, I have DM'd since the 70's, I know what I want to allow or not and why. I am just interested if this would be a legal character that is all.


A possible option might be the Russian Demon Slayer to a LLW if you or player would want to go that route. The 'Slayer is in the Mystic Russia book.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 3:33 pm
by RockJock
The only possible exception I can come up with is waaaaaay up there in the power scale, and not good for a PC. If the said Undead Slayer got his spell casting abilities from the World Tree(Yag whatever I can't spell it) he might, and I say might beable to cast them. I would make a special case since this is a godlike power, but I would never let a PC get the oppurtunity.

The reason I say it is possible is something like a Stone Master, or Warlock who can't use normal spell magic at all could be granted spell knowledge in this fashion. It is just way to powerful unless your playing a game where the average NPC or PC is a Blaze, Cosmo Knight, Godling, Dragon Prince, or Second Stage Promethian, and the big NPCs are full gods and AIs.

I'll stick with the True Atlantean Psychic Cyber Knight turned T-Man with Japanese Samuri Archery and Swordmanship.

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 5:22 pm
by Dr. Doom III
You could always hack his arms and legs off if he has less then 7 tattoos on his torso.
Of course that just causes other problems. :)

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:05 pm
by Athos
Dr. Doom III wrote:You could always hack his arms and legs off if he has less then 7 tattoos on his torso.
Of course that just causes other problems. :)


lmao

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 8:33 pm
by Borast
Dr. Doom III wrote:You could always hack his arms and legs off if he has less then 7 tattoos on his torso.
Of course that just causes other problems. :)


Actually...(s)he would still not be able to learn other magics...

The magic tats become part of the person's "essence." If they were able to regrow their arms, the tats would reappear. :D

Posted: Mon Sep 20, 2004 9:59 pm
by Borast
I did say "regrow"... :D

Even though a bio-system is a cloned part of the original person, I do agree that the new arms would not spontaneously show tats.

Even so, I'd still say that the person's magic abilities are permanently crippled.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 12:44 am
by Marcethus
There is one Race that could have more than 7 still use magic. That is the Chiang-Ku dragon since they are the creators of Tatoo Magic. If your player wants to go this route you could let them take skills in there slots as a dragon that would equal the combat abilities of a undead slayer while letting them learn the spells of a Line Walker. I don't have the england or dragons&gods infront of me atm. But I know the chiang ku have a choice between Tatto Master or adventurer/scholar/mage. So you may have to tweek them a bit to get a few more of the Tattoos. But this is the only way to get something legally resembling an Undead slayer/Line Walker.

BTW. the fact of the Chiang ku lack of tat limit and magic use was pointed out by a local mage expert. *Kicks self since I am local chiang ku expert*

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 9:50 am
by Dr. Doom III
Borast wrote:I did say "regrow"... :D

Even though a bio-system is a cloned part of the original person, I do agree that the new arms would not spontaneously show tats.

Even so, I'd still say that the person's magic abilities are permanently crippled.


Bio-systems are not cloned. They are artifical.

For cloned implants you need to go to Phase World or Japan.

Posted: Tue Sep 21, 2004 6:36 pm
by Dr. Doom III
Zerebus wrote:Yes and no. They are not cloned body parts of the person using them. They are, however, fast grown blank slate tissues that are "programmed" with the host's DNA, according to the Rifts main book. At what point that becomes the equivalent to a clone is in question, though the biosystems are mentioned being not quite as good as true cloned tissue.


Mostly no. :P