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Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 3:54 am
by Killer Cyborg
I looked but didn't respond because:
1. I don't know who randomancer is.
2. I don't know what he did to tick you off.
3. I don't know what you're talking about with the armor.
4. I suspect this thread will have a short life anyway.
5. there is no #5.
Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 5:56 am
by Killer Cyborg
So basically you are asking what happens when a SAMAS (or other PA) that has 250 MDC takes 250 points of mega-damage?
His armor is gone, but he's alive.
If he takes 251, then his armor is gone and he takes 1 point of MD (which will likely kill him).
If he is flying or hovering when his armor is destroyed, he will crash or fall and take SDC falling damage.
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 8:50 pm
by grandmaster z0b
I can understand that your angry (I didn't see the thread but if he did say that then it is justified) but I would try not to take things so seriously on these boards. There's always going to be people who disagree with you and quite honestly I haven't always liked the way you've responded to my posts, but it's best just to let it go and try and be civil (it is especially offensive to use "randofaggo" because it is also generally offensive and I wouldn't be surprised if this entire thread gets deleted)
In regards to laminate, it essentially means layers, and has more in common to laminated wood than katana's (do you realise there are a lot of different swords made that way? It is not exclusive to the Japanese, in fact the Vikings were using a very similar technique as was most of Europe until they invented the blast furnace which made that technique obsolete. It was the fact that the Japanese were isolationist and had incredibly poor quality of steel because they had to refine it from sand that meant they continued to use this technique.)
Re: MDC armor, possible failings,for randomacer
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:47 pm
by Temporalmage
Rhett2.3 wrote:Yes MDC armor can take damage. obviously the material involvoed is laminate (laminations, levels slightly related to a katana having multiple levels of different metals(old style katana of course))
No offense but the katana is made of one type of metal, that is folded upon itself 100 times. It is NOT multiple layers of differant metals.
The books never really discuss how armor, power armor, or even robotic armor plating is created with the sole exception of the famous Glitterboy. That specific armor type is created through a unique molecular bonding process that is very expensive. So it's safe to say that no other armor is created that way. How other types of armor and such is created is pretty much open to discussion and hypothesis at this point.
As for the query that you have placed on this post:
I'd say if the person inside the PA has managed to stay alive when the last MD is gone, they could get out. But they can not eject. Only robots have ejection systems, which is listed as "reinforced pilots compartments". The pilots compartment only takes damage when all the main body MDC is depleated, then any damage over the main body is deducted from the pilots compartment. If still alive then the pilot can eject to some 1000 feet away or so. Power armor does not have that luxury. If your armor has taken all it's MDC....it's time to just get the heck out or your stuck in a large heavy paper weight. Unless of course the final blow did enough to atomize the pilot....then the pilot is beyond caring.
Re: MDC armor, possible failings,for randomacer
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:53 pm
by grandmaster z0b
Temporalmage wrote:Rhett2.3 wrote:Yes MDC armor can take damage. obviously the material involvoed is laminate (laminations, levels slightly related to a katana having multiple levels of different metals(old style katana of course))
No offense but the katana is made of one type of metal, that is folded upon itself 100 times. It is NOT multiple layers of differant metals.
Well, it is made of one layer of soft iron and a layer of higher carbon steel, which are then folded several times. No offence but it's not 100's of times, that's a missconception often from the movie Highlander.
Maybe some ultra-superior blades were folded 100 times but not all.
Re: MDC armor, possible failings,for randomacer
Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 11:56 pm
by Temporalmage
z0b wrote:Temporalmage wrote:Rhett2.3 wrote:Yes MDC armor can take damage. obviously the material involvoed is laminate (laminations, levels slightly related to a katana having multiple levels of different metals(old style katana of course))
No offense but the katana is made of one type of metal, that is folded upon itself 100 times. It is NOT multiple layers of differant metals.
Well, it is made of one layer of soft iron and a layer of higher carbon steel, which are then folded several times. No offence but it's not 100's of times, that's a missconception often from the movie Highlander.
Maybe some ultra-superior blades were folded 100 times but not all.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that the process actually bonds both metals togeather into one metal. I've never made one of those swords personally so perhaps my reading material is wrong. "Shrug".
But I did say 100 times!! Not hundreds with an "s" Honest!!
Re: MDC armor, possible failings,for randomacer
Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:35 am
by grandmaster z0b
Temporalmage wrote:z0b wrote:Temporalmage wrote:Rhett2.3 wrote:Yes MDC armor can take damage. obviously the material involvoed is laminate (laminations, levels slightly related to a katana having multiple levels of different metals(old style katana of course))
No offense but the katana is made of one type of metal, that is folded upon itself 100 times. It is NOT multiple layers of differant metals.
Well, it is made of one layer of soft iron and a layer of higher carbon steel, which are then folded several times. No offence but it's not 100's of times, that's a missconception often from the movie Highlander.
Maybe some ultra-superior blades were folded 100 times but not all.
I'm sorry, but I'm pretty sure that the process actually bonds both metals togeather into one metal. I've never made one of those swords personally so perhaps my reading material is wrong. "Shrug".
But I did say 100 times!! Not hundreds with an "s" Honest!!
Yes, is see that now, sorry
The iron and the steel in katanas does join together but not to form one metal, it is softer on the inside to give flexibility and harder on the outside for sharpness. I don't want to hijack this thread so I think I'll stop now before I start boring you all with my knowledge of sword forging.