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Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 12:59 am
by Mack
I can see where a newby would think so. Show 'em the Neural Mace.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:03 am
by Killer Cyborg
Just give them a crowbar and let them whack on a tank for a while.
(Ignore this if you don't actually own a crowbar. Note everybody does.)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:21 am
by grandmaster z0b
Who says that? I thought the real issue was whether someone with supernatural strength who is using an MDC weapon adds the damage together or not.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:34 am
by Dr. Doom III
How strong is the guy doing the wacking?
Normal people no.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:41 am
by Temporalmage
Dr. Doom III wrote:How strong is the guy doing the wacking?
Normal people no.
And supernatural peaple yes.
See folks!! Doom and I agree on the occasion!!
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:16 am
by Mike Taylor
You may want to explain to the guy that throwing a .45 calibur bullet by hand and shooting it out of a gun do not do the same damage. I can throw bullets at Doom's facemask all day and not scratch the finish. However, if he loads those bullets into a gun and shoots me, I'm dead-- or at least severely injured. The bullets are the same. It is the amount of FORCE behind the impact that determines damage and not the material itself, at least in the case you are presenting here.
If this clown were attacking somebody with a blade of Kisentite, he could indeed inflict mega-damage on them, but that has to do with the forging process specific to that material.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:51 am
by Mike Taylor
Rhett2.3 wrote:grrr. next ? is does a sharpened mdc object do mdc damage to an sdc object?
I refer you again to this.
Mike Taylor wrote:If this clown were attacking somebody with a blade of Kisentite, he could indeed inflict mega-damage on them, but that has to do with the forging process specific to that material.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:56 am
by (SHIFTY)
SDC damage all the way, If he has normal strength. IF he has bionic or supernatural strentgh........MDC damage.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 3:30 am
by Shiva7
Here are the official answers to the questions...
MDC blunt Object only does improved SDC damage in comparison to it's SDC counterpart due to extra weight and strength of the material, something like one extra die of damage or so, but the only way to inflict MD levels is to be supernaturally strong or at least have a near equivalent to it.
Blade made of MDC material is the same as aove, it only does slightly improved damage unless it has a vibro-system, or sharpened to an extremely fine edge, but...
This becomes very confusing with the release of WB 23: Xiticix Invasion! All of a sudden, mortal, non-augmented being are capable of inflicting MD with Xiticix weapons. These weapons are made from their MDC resin and are similar to MDC concrete. There is no mention of these weapons being magical nor of them having some kind of super sharp edge. KS just decided to up thee power of these weapons so that Psi-Stalkers and Dogboys could use them against the Xiticix bugs.
Thus, power creep has struck yet again.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:57 am
by Svartalf
As the other say... it only is an MDC weapon if wielded with soupie or sufficient robotic strength.
In the hands of a normal being, it's just a super solid club, but it won't do MDC
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 6:59 am
by Svartalf
Mike Taylor wrote:Rhett2.3 wrote:grrr. next ? is does a sharpened mdc object do mdc damage to an sdc object?
I refer you again to this.
Mike Taylor wrote:If this clown were attacking somebody with a blade of Kisentite, he could indeed inflict mega-damage on them, but that has to do with the forging process specific to that material.
Right O mike ... Kisentite is not Just *any* MDC material, and is noted for it's special ability to cause MDC, even when wielded by normal humans (or other beings)
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 7:02 am
by Svartalf
Shiva7 wrote:Here are the official answers to the questions...
This becomes very confusing with the release of WB 23: Xiticix Invasion! All of a sudden, mortal, non-augmented being are capable of inflicting MD with Xiticix weapons. These weapons are made from their MDC resin and are similar to MDC concrete. There is no mention of these weapons being magical nor of them having some kind of super sharp edge. KS just decided to up thee power of these weapons so that Psi-Stalkers and Dogboys could use them against the Xiticix bugs.
Thus, power creep has struck yet again.
Yep !!! This is part of the beef I have with the X I book. I was used to those weapons being SDC (from RMB) ... and then I learn they are MD now... just weird
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:12 pm
by Vrykolas2k
Okay I said yes and i'm hardly a noob... the question being can it. Well, if I have supernatural strength then certainly it can. Be more specific with your questions please. You should have asked, "Can a non-supernatural-strength being do MD to an opponent with an MDC object?".
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:15 pm
by Vrykolas2k
Svartalf wrote:Shiva7 wrote:Here are the official answers to the questions...
This becomes very confusing with the release of WB 23: Xiticix Invasion! All of a sudden, mortal, non-augmented being are capable of inflicting MD with Xiticix weapons. These weapons are made from their MDC resin and are similar to MDC concrete. There is no mention of these weapons being magical nor of them having some kind of super sharp edge. KS just decided to up thee power of these weapons so that Psi-Stalkers and Dogboys could use them against the Xiticix bugs.
Thus, power creep has struck yet again.
Yep !!! This is part of the beef I have with the X I book. I was used to those weapons being SDC (from RMB) ... and then I learn they are MD now... just weird
They don't do that much damage; I'd hardly call it power creep.
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:29 pm
by Josh Sinsapaugh
ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:31 pm
by Vrykolas2k
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
That depends... are we doing MD to the dead horses, or SDC?
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 1:33 pm
by Josh Sinsapaugh
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:27 pm
by Svartalf
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
Yeah... I'll use said MDC ally rod to flog a live josh
Posted: Mon Oct 11, 2004 2:29 pm
by Josh Sinsapaugh
Svartalf wrote:Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
Yeah... I'll use said MDC ally rod to flog a live josh
Is your P.S. supernatural or not? Cause if it isn't...I'll still get hurt pretty bad.
((I'll refrain from making some stupid cliched french surrendering joke.))
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 6:17 am
by Adam of the Old Kingdom
Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
does the dead horse become an MDC creature on rifts earth?
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 9:15 am
by Josh Sinsapaugh
Adam of the Old Kingdom wrote:Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
does the dead horse become an MDC creature on rifts earth?
No. GDC.
Posted: Tue Oct 12, 2004 7:11 pm
by Vrykolas2k
Adam of the Old Kingdom wrote:Josh Sinsapaugh wrote:ALthough an M.D. rod when swung by a normal person deals s.d.c. I must say:
Can we stop flogging dead horses?
does the dead horse become an MDC creature on rifts earth?
Perhaps with a spell of my own creation: Xombiefy. It creates MDC undead... low MDC, but still...