Crazy Idea

[Lt Gargoyle]

personally i would not do this. The reason is the ASC mecha is first way out dated to the MAcross II mecha.
But perhaps if you build the story/history up it would make better since of it.

I do like the idea of having the character trying to figure out what happen. they could even be trying to return home. After all how would they know that their reality is gone. it could be that they fold in on the other side of the moon as the ASC is on it final battle with the master and send in reinforcements to aid their fellow humans. which could have perished if they had not had the mishap.

but in all the crossing over the two is very unbalancing to me and could cause you to lose the game balance quickly. but as long as you and your players are having fun then go for it.

[Colonel Wolfe]

All Mecha in Robotech are 40+ years behind the Development in Macross-2.

Even the Later REF mecha Alphas/Betas are no Match (by system) To Macross 2 Mecha.

Even Corrected Stats for the ASC Mecha, placeing them on Par with the Lateed REF would still place the Robotech Mecha years behind the Macross2 designs.

[Zer0 Kay]

All Mecha in Robotech are 40+ years behind the Development in Macross-2.

Even the Later REF mecha Alphas/Betas are no Match (by system) To Macross 2 Mecha.

Even Corrected Stats for the ASC Mecha, placeing them on Par with the Lateed REF would still place the Robotech Mecha years behind the Macross2 designs.

So your saying that doing Macross-7(as much as I dislike it, TOO much singing) would be outragiously overpowered seeing as what... Hmm I just checked out the Macross timeline and 7 comes before II as does Plus. I would have thought that II's technology seemed lower than that shown in plus but now that I think about it they did say it was x anniversary of the Macross or something didn't they. Strange backwards technology.

[Colonel Wolfe]

All Mecha in Robotech are 40+ years behind the Development in Macross-2.

Even the Later REF mecha Alphas/Betas are no Match (by system) To Macross 2 Mecha.

Even Corrected Stats for the ASC Mecha, placeing them on Par with the Lateed REF would still place the Robotech Mecha years behind the Macross2 designs.

So your saying that doing Macross-7(as much as I dislike it, TOO much singing) would be outragiously overpowered seeing as what... Hmm I just checked out the Macross timeline and 7 comes before II as does Plus. I would have thought that II's technology seemed lower than that shown in plus but now that I think about it they did say it was x anniversary of the Macross or something didn't they. Strange backwards technology.

Actually, Macross 2 dosent happen in the MAcross Plus, 7 universe, IIRC, its Set in the alternte universe created in the the Macros: the Movie DYRL.

Macross2 also Uses "Destroids" which the Offical Macross Time Line abandoned after Space war 1, in favor of only using veritech in Batalodi for the job the Destroids had. The Monster they blow up in Plus is one pulled out of the mothballs for weapons testing.

[Zer0 Kay]

All Mecha in Robotech are 40+ years behind the Development in Macross-2.

Even the Later REF mecha Alphas/Betas are no Match (by system) To Macross 2 Mecha.

Even Corrected Stats for the ASC Mecha, placeing them on Par with the Lateed REF would still place the Robotech Mecha years behind the Macross2 designs.

So your saying that doing Macross-7(as much as I dislike it, TOO much singing) would be outragiously overpowered seeing as what... Hmm I just checked out the Macross timeline and 7 comes before II as does Plus. I would have thought that II's technology seemed lower than that shown in plus but now that I think about it they did say it was x anniversary of the Macross or something didn't they. Strange backwards technology.

Actually, Macross 2 dosent happen in the MAcross Plus, 7 universe, IIRC, its Set in the alternte universe created in the the Macros: the Movie DYRL.

Macross2 also Uses "Destroids" which the Offical Macross Time Line abandoned after Space war 1, in favor of only using veritech in Batalodi for the job the Destroids had. The Monster they blow up in Plus is one pulled out of the mothballs for weapons testing.

Ah...Oops that would explain why M2 was way over on the right. But still putting Macross equipment up against the descendants of the Macross Plus equipment wouldn't be fair. Again M+ still seemed more advanced than what was being depicted as 40+ yrs difference. So I can only imagine what 7's tech is like...I never watched any after I saw the episode with the "vampire" I thought it was too cheezy. Yes even cheezier than Minmei!

[glitterboy2098]

perhaps have the SDF-2 Megaroad colony fleet from macross show up in robotech?

and then have the interdimensional "rift" caused by that result in a copy of the Marduk appearing?

so you'd have the REF, the UNSpacy, and the marduk.

the REF has the fleet, the UNSpacy has the mecha (VF-4's are somewhat better than the Alpha, though its a apple/orange thing.), and you have the marduk as this massive juggernaught for the two to fight.


on the story line note, the Megaroad fleet was commanded by Hikaru and Misa, and brought along Minmay, so you have some character duplication stuff going.

[Colonel Wolfe]

Col. Wolfe, how would you propose correcting the SC-era mecha. Me personally, I'd just use the stuff over at Robotech Research but my gut says you'd do something different.

the robotech Research stuff isnt bad. Thou i still see the Logan has Lower MDC then a Cyclone.

Also the Southren Cross Recruitment Manule has some updates.as well as some anti-kev stuff. But if you want to talk SC revision/update talk to Rabid Southren Cross fan, he's a bit more informed on revisions for the stuff.

[Colonel Wolfe]

on the story line note, the Megaroad fleet was commanded by Hikaru and Misa, and brought along Minmay, so you have some character duplication stuff going.

no you don't These Chracter are not in Robotech, so how would there be Duplicates? unless they are in the 2 possible Macross universes that would be crossed?
Hikaru: Misa.. meat Misa... its not cheating is i sleep with both of you.
Hikaru thinks to him self "Maybe the minmay from the other universe is Easy... "

[glitterboy2098]

on the story line note, the Megaroad fleet was commanded by Hikaru and Misa, and brought along Minmay, so you have some character duplication stuff going.

no you don't These Chracter are not in Robotech, so how would there be Duplicates? unless they are in the 2 possible Macross universes that would be crossed?
Hikaru: Misa.. meat Misa... its not cheating is i sleep with both of you.
Hikaru thinks to him self "Maybe the minmay from the other universe is Easy... "

when macross became robotech here in the states:

Hikaru Ichijo=Rick Hunter
Misa Hayase=Lisa Hayes
Lynn Minmay=Lynn Minmei

so while the personalities are different, the doppleganger effect comes into play as they look the same.

and the personal histories will be similar for the war against the zents, with only names and minor details being different.

With mine, I actually have an easier time seeing different options with a universe fusion type spark event.* Such as, someone became aware of the two different universes and devised away of merging the two together. This person did this because they're an anti-UN/UEG terrorist and figure they can get allies by merging the two universes together. Of course, they also have the means of seperating the two back to their original states. Alternatively, someone could have been mucking around with some new system meant to enhance mecha performance but tears down the barriers between dimensions instead, or as a side effect. Now some group plans to use the system to advance their own plans, despite or because of the "risk" involved with the system. And those are just two examples, of which I could make several variations out of.

hey Basara, you have any idea's? this sounds alot like something you'd do in the LGSA setting.