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Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 5:51 pm
by BookWyrm
My suggestion is that you find movies that hint at a supernatural connection to the story, like Stigmata, The Forgotten, The Village, Stir of Echoes, and a few others I can't place right now. The mood/formula should be that there's this idea that there's something just beyond our perception of what the world is, and we either refuse it or be consumed by it.
The idea is that 'mainstream', or the average, human being is either unaware of or purposely ignorant of the supernatural world they share. They dismiss things like ghosts, mediums, psychics, ect., as 'hokey' or just another Hollywood gimmick to sell a movie. Most people would freak out in disbelief & terror if they did come in contact with the truth (even those hard-core horror-monster movie fans supposedly desensitized by the Hollywood splatterfestivals).
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 8:13 pm
by Entiago
Just about any horror movie would work- for a survival game. The anime Wicked City could also work (great for Nightbane too). Any of the M. Knight Shamalan (sp?) movies...
Re: X-Men: INFERNO
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:03 pm
by Killer Cyborg
C.R.A.F.T. wrote:I had a fellow gamer ask me to describe the world of Beyond the Supernatural. I knew he was a fan of the X-Men, so I suggested he reread the INFERNO series.
What other movies, comic books, or video games can you use to describe the unusual setting?
The books and movies that the game was based off of.
Stuff like:
The Legend of Hell House
The Haunting (of Hill House)
and so on.
I also highly recommend the movies (although a lot have bad budgets and such):
Witchboard
Witchtrap
6th Sense
The Unnamable (and the written works of HP Lovecraft)
Posted: Sun Jan 16, 2005 10:20 pm
by pblackcrow
Books or a TV show.
TV shows: Relic Hunter, Poltergeist: The Legacy (Has lantant psy's), Friday the 13th: The Series, X Files, Alien Nation, American Gothic, Angel (to some exstent), Beast Master (can be made to be scary), Buffy, Brimstone, Werewolf, Beyond Reality, The Chronicle, Fantastic Journey, Forever Knight, Freakylinks, Good vs. Evil, Kindred: The Embraced, Kolchak: The Night Stalker, Kung Fu, Kung Fu: The Legend Continues, The Lost World, The Man From Atlantis, Mortal Kombat: Conquest, Mysterious Island, Mysterious Ways, Night Visions, Night Gallery, One Step Beyond, The Outer Limits, The Planet Of The Apes, Prey, 7 Days, Psi Factor: Chronicles Of The Paranormal, Roswell, Sabrina: The Teenage Witch, Shena, The Sentinel, The Star Gate shows, Strange World, Swamp Thing, Tales From The Crypt, Tales From The Darkside, The Twilight Zone, Vampire High (For those of you who are Canadian, or like me who visited there and watched it one Spring), Weird Science, Full Moon Fright Night, Wolf Lake, and The Young Indiana Jones Chronicles.
And Books there is too damn many in my collection to name that I would consider. Same with movies. Nightbreed, Warlock and Warlock Armageddon, and Mummy 1 & 2 are some definites.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:24 pm
by Sentinel
I voted movies, although I feel strongly about using books as well.
I tend to watch more horror movies than read horror books, so quantity over quality. If I use movies as a reference then I have more references.
On the other hand, if I read more horror novels, then I would probably have said books.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:31 pm
by Sentinel
I know comic fans who read "Inferno" and didn't get it...
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 12:38 pm
by Sentinel
There's more to life than scantily clad women.
And if that's what you want (I want it too...) then Cry For Dawn does it better...and the stories in Dawn are much better suited to BtS.
I got so tired of the "many ways to resurrect Jean Grey", I gave up on the X-titles for a long time.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 2:21 pm
by Sir Neil
Sentinel wrote:There's more to life than scantily clad women.
"Not if you're doing it right," he says, before his wife reads his post and hits him on the nose.
*blinks*
Uh, I mean, Resident Evil, X-Files, Big Trouble in Little China, for a start.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 10:50 pm
by pblackcrow
Oh yeah...Big Trouble in Little China is a definet! I have done that adventure or something like it. Resently. I recall a pc got hit by not 1 cow from space, but 25; because the player had been a real jerk about every little thing. I mean everything...I was personally ready to kill him. Here's the situation: I was writing for 3 people. A blind guy, a dislexic, and myself. I was playing 2 characters. The others had 1. This guy who had been annoying me for the last 5 hours, finally said what was, bothering him when Jim (The dislexic) had went to help Tod (the blind) to the bathroom. "Why are we playing with a two guys who can't write down their own stuff." That's when the cows hit one right after the other. "Your character's now dead...You no longer have an excuse to be here. Now get out!" was the gm's response.
Posted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 11:47 pm
by Jason Richards
Constantine looks like it might be a good match, except they are "entities" and "dimensional creatures" instead of real, honest to goodness demons.
Posted: Wed Jan 19, 2005 5:25 pm
by Sentinel
Jason Richards wrote:Constantine looks like it might be a good match, except they are "entities" and "dimensional creatures" instead of real, honest to goodness demons.
I have faith in Reeves as an actor (think :
Devils' Advocate), I just hope the scripting and sceenplay are up to snuff.
I would love if Alan Moore actually wrote it, based on his early work with John Constantine and
no one changed a
single word of it.
Posted: Fri Jan 21, 2005 1:34 pm
by Killer Cyborg
Sentinel wrote:Jason Richards wrote:Constantine looks like it might be a good match, except they are "entities" and "dimensional creatures" instead of real, honest to goodness demons.
I have faith in Reeves as an actor (think :
Devils' Advocate), I just hope the scripting and sceenplay are up to snuff.
I would love if Alan Moore actually wrote it, based on his early work with John Constantine and
no one changed a
single word of it.
I don't have any real problem with Reeves, but he's a very poor fit for the character.
Posted: Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:59 am
by Sentinel
I see your fears KC, but I submit that Michael Keaton was hardly anybodys' first choice for Batman, yet he did a good job with the role, and took it seriously. So long as Reeves takes the role seriously, and receives good direction (a reason I feel Moore needs to be involved in the project heavily) he should be fine.
I had always thought Constantine was blonde, but I can forgive a little thing like hair colour.
I wonder if they'll mention Swamp Thing: that was the title where John Constantine first appeared.
Posted: Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:08 am
by drewkitty ~..~
For movies a good BTS movie is The mummy and Hell Boy(though HB is more a Dark HU). and maybe the new KR movie 'Constentine'
Comics...Witchblade and Warrior Nun Areala & For Eternity(ap-comics.com in the back issues)
Manga--Faeries' Landing & Princess Ai (tokyopop.com) Alice 19th (viz.com) Sister Red (comicsone.com) X, XXXHolic, Tsubasa, Negima! (delreymanga.com)
Anime--Witch Hunter Robin , InuYasha
BTiLChina might work for a side adventure, but its more HU or MC then BTS. But it would let introduce Chars and things from MC.
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 1:53 am
by Killer Cyborg
Sentinel wrote:I see your fears KC, but I submit that Michael Keaton was hardly anybodys' first choice for Batman, yet he did a good job with the role, and took it seriously. So long as Reeves takes the role seriously, and receives good direction (a reason I feel Moore needs to be involved in the project heavily) he should be fine.
I doubt it.
I have NEVER seen any movie that was made good by Reeves being in it... and I'm one of his bigger fans that I know.
I one day asked myself, is there any one of his movies that would be any worse with another actor in the role?
And there isn't.
While he is passable, he's not really GOOD.
As for Keaton, he did a great job and I didn't expect him to. I admit that.
But that's because I was thinking of him as Batman. He only made a mediocre Batman, but he was a GREAT Bruce Wayne... and that's what made the movies really work. Because Keaton is funny, and Bruce Wayne is funny... so they fit.
Constantine has no such alter ego.
Reeves has only been successful in straight action movies (Matrix, Speed, etc), Comedy (Bill & Ted), and roles where he doesn't really speak or move much (Little Buddha).
Constantine seems like a man filled with inner sadness, and Reeves main flaw as an actor is that he lacks emotional depth.
I had always thought Constantine was blonde, but I can forgive a little thing like hair colour.
I can't.
I wonder if they'll mention Swamp Thing: that was the title where John Constantine first appeared.
And likely Swamp Thing will be remembered as a better film, too...
Posted: Thu Jan 27, 2005 10:52 am
by Sentinel
Michael Clake Duncan is the actor you're trying to think of. I liked him as the Kingpin, and was willing to accept his casting, and at least they didn't totally violate the character of the Kingpin, just altered it to fit a change in ethnicity. I don't defend it, just willing to accept it. At least great effort was made to make Daredevil more like the comic character than that awful "Trial of the Hulk".
No one mentioned Reeves' role in Devils' Advocate. I thought he did well there. Delivered his lines well, and didn't muck things up.
I would prefer a British actor myself, prefer being the active word. I am willing to give him a chance. Heck, he can't be any worse than Kevin Costner as Robin Hood, and probably a darn sight better.