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Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 9:49 am
by Sentinel
BtS has more 'fragile' characters than Night bane, and you might like the lower power levels of the player characters.
The mood and atmosphere are well establish, and while BtS and Nightbane are both horror genres, they are not the same type.
The first edition book has more 'stuff': an adventure involving Gargoyles, weapons and equipment, the option of a 'victims' game (in which the PCs are likely to not live through the night: great fun though).
I so far like the 2nd ed, and am willing to wait for the sourcebooks to support it. The absence of these things doesn't detract from my enjoyment of the new book.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:51 am
by pblackcrow
While BtS 2nd edition is cool and all...I like the skills programs and the monsters in 1st edition. But, that's just me. I like solid gaming matterial, not alot of fluff. However, the fluff is great fluff; but still fluff.

As a source book for 1st ed. it's great 5 stars. As a game system, 2.5 stars. That's mainly because I the new classes, the fluff, and the arrangement of the stuff. The drawbacks are: no info on guns or equipment, not enough monsters, no magic, a lot of useless information and data to give you an idea of how stuff works (fluff); though I did like some of the fluff...I think Kevin should write horror novels.

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 11:56 am
by Sentinel
pblackcrow wrote:While BtS 2nd edition is cool and all...I like the skills programs and the monsters in 1st edition. But, that's just me. I like solid gaming matterial, not alot of fluff. However, the fluff is great fluff; but still fluff.

As a source book for 1st ed. it's great 5 stars. As a game system, 2.5 stars. That's mainly because I the new classes, the fluff, and the arrangement of the stuff. The drawbacks are: no info on guns or equipment, not enough monsters, no magic, a lot of useless information and data to give you an idea of how stuff works (fluff); though I did like some of the fluff...I think Kevin should write horror novels.



I like the fluff text, as people call it, as it helps establish the mood, without it becoming the wild runaway metaplot that Rifts has become.
I can find guns, weapons and equipment in other modern setting Palladium books like HUII and Nightbane, even some stuff from Mystic China (personally, I like the possibilities these two books together give a GM). I still think KevSim should have upped the page count, and I'd have paid a higher price for the book, but that's not the decision I get to make.

Re: Sell Me Beyond the Supernatural 2nd Edition

Posted: Fri Feb 18, 2005 1:58 pm
by Shawn Merrow
The Formless One wrote:Okay, I'm Joe-Average RPG-fan. I've never run a strong horror game, and I want to run something along the lines of a horror game. I want to creep my players out.

There a whole bunch of options available to me. CoC, Vampire and even Palladium's own Nightbane.

What does BtS 2E do that no other horror games don't? Does it do anything better? If so, what? Should I buy Nightbane instead?

Thanks,
Joe RPG-Player.


The link below is to a post that has links to the previews of BtS2nd that were posted on GamingReport.com.

Beyond the Supernatural 2nd preview