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I was looking through my old TMNT book and came across the stats for old Doc Feral and the Bio Spawn corperation. I remembered alot of campaigns and adventure with him. Both as a GM and player.

I was wonder how instrumantal was he in your mutant animal campaign?

I've run a few campaigns which he was in, he didn't figure very prominently though. I've always found him to be more of a on-the-sidelines continual hassle than a true opponent.

That's how my GM handled him as well. I, on the other hand played him as a major villan to my players. Making him like the Lex Luthor of the TMNT world. Untouchable to the player's characters. All they can do is foil his plans and schemes.

I generally used him in a role where he was more of a nuisance than a full-fledged foe. Once I began running AtB campaigns back in the day (way back in the day) I would find some way to incorporate him whether it be through time travel (Transdimensional TMNT), cryogenics, or something similiar.

I do remember one scenario I had his corporation pitched against TCRI with the players caught in the middle.

gordyzx9r wrote:I generally used him in a role where he was more of a nuisance than a full-fledged foe. Once I began running AtB campaigns back in the day (way back in the day) I would find some way to incorporate him whether it be through time travel (Transdimensional TMNT), cryogenics, or something similiar.

I do remember one scenario I had his corporation pitched against TCRI with the players caught in the middle.

Could you imagine him under the power of empire of humanity? Gesh he could be really bad.

Truth be known. I'm surprised the control collars were not being used by the Empire. I figured someone would have rediscovered them. BioSpawn was after all a big corperation in TMNT.

Ronin Shinobi wrote:Truth be known. I'm surprised the control collars were not being used by the Empire. I figured someone would have rediscovered them. BioSpawn was after all a big corperation in TMNT.

Nothing says you can't implement that in your campaigns.

True, but I'm more surprised that it was not impemented in any of the ATB books. Closest to it was the psycho zombies.

ash_wednesday wrote:They should update him and stick him in a HU 2nd book.

There are alot of things some of us here wish Palladium could do, unfortunuately they legally can't anymore.

gordyzx9r wrote:

ash_wednesday wrote:They should update him and stick him in a HU 2nd book.

There are alot of things some of us here wish Palladium could do, unfortunuately they legally can't anymore.

Aint that the truth, but you have to admit control collars would be cool!

In my early days, playing TMNT&OS, I had a couple nasty run-ins with his minions. Had a wild suburban gun battle with them, me with an M-16, Feral's cronies using MP5's I think they were. The neighbor's house was never the same after I loosed a frag grenade outside the living room window.

Looooong time ago that was, I think I was 8 years old, and my older brother was GM'ing. I don't think either of us had any other books at that time.

gordyzx9r wrote:

ash_wednesday wrote:They should update him and stick him in a HU 2nd book.

There are alot of things some of us here wish Palladium could do, unfortunuately they legally can't anymore.

Why did they drop the license?

Simply put, the game line was dead in the water with little to no sales.

I blame the old cartoon that just ruined their image.



Daniel Stoker

Daniel Stoker wrote:I blame the old cartoon that just ruined their image.

Amen.

Daniel Stoker wrote:I blame the old cartoon that just ruined their image.



Daniel Stoker

The old cartoon was the only reason I knew the Turtles existed. I am a huge fan of the comic now, but I owe that cartoon for showing me the light.

gordyzx9r wrote:

ash_wednesday wrote:They should update him and stick him in a HU 2nd book.

There are alot of things some of us here wish Palladium could do, unfortunuately they legally can't anymore.

Why can't they update Feral. It was Palladium's character. They just have to omit anything related to Mirage Studios.

I'd completely forgotten about the control collar aspect of The Good Doctor. Time to revise my "Before the Bomb" game a little! The government is gonna love those things!

(In my world Feral was killed by Pain Bear & Nightmare Bear, and became an anti-mutant martyr!)

Erick Wujcik wrote:

Ronin Shinobi wrote:It was Palladium's character...

Correct.

Doc Feral is one of my all-time favorite characters. He showed up in the very first play-test campaign, mostly through his corporate minions, but also with a couple of personal appearances. One of the many books I started, but never finished, was a Doc Feral sourcebook.
Erick

Do you tell us things like this to tease us? That is sooooo mean.

Just had an idea on this subject. Read & enjoy.

...after several months of combing through literally hundreds of pre-Crash artifacts, such as magazine publications of various types (several of which I am still convinced were devoted solely to the enticement of younger male humans to engage in strange non-productive mating rituals), I have discovered an 'advertisement' detailing the source of the legendary EGG devices that led to the instigation of the 'Big Death' event that brought about our current world.
Produced by a company called Bio-Spawn, the Embryonic Genome Generator was touted as the 'solution to home labour' by 'creating your own mutant'. The device, displayed in both open/activated and closed/deactivated stages by a scantilly-clad human female (whom I have been perhaps-jokingly told displayed attributes that did not occur in natural breeding), appeared to be similar to other, pre-Crash advertisements for land vehilces; hyping conveinience, simplicity-of-use and affordability (this last part was obscured due to prior damage). The half-dessicated building we initially assumed was a multiple families dwelling called an 'apartment complex' was one of the uncommon semi-intact multi-tiered 'shopping mall' structures that survived the Crash event. Storefronts of particularly garish clothing styles, entertainment devices of many ages, and--by the First! A bookstore? Inconcieveable!--I shall have to investigate this further! Thomas, hand me the prybar...no, the large one. Help me with this slab of masronry--- recording ends.

Archeology Report #03301-a, recorded by Dr. Anwon Fillins, on-site Director of Archeology

Erick Wujcik wrote:Doc Feral is one of my all-time favorite characters. He showed up in the very first play-test campaign, mostly through his corporate minions, but also with a couple of personal appearances. One of the many books I started, but never finished, was a Doc Feral sourcebook.

Erick

What are chances of a net book or something similiar? Maybe a living manuscript via a blog or something.

I would love to see the book online.

Ronin Shinobi wrote:I would love to see the book online.

I third the motion.

Consider that fourth'd.

Fifthed.

A surfeit of good books presently exists. Some old school bookwriting needs to be introduced.

Batts

Dare I say sixthed.
posting it online would be grade A.
Doc feral was my fav. villan he could be toned down ( and still give you the creeps) or played to his full potential and wreak havoc. Control collars are going to find a way back into my ATB campaign I'm working on.
(Still running the TMNTAOS books/sourcebooks)
Doc feral rocked, and then rocked some more.
please Eric, release the beast as an netbook.

The netbook idea gets my vote.

I say Cram Doctor Feral into the next After the bomb supplement.

Johnny Chronic wrote:More than anything, I crave an Encylopedia Animalia...

Alot of us would like that too...but don't count on it. AtB just isn't as popular as Palladium's other titles...IMO, there isn't much profit in it. If that is the case, then what I'd like to see is some sort of universal template that one can use as a guide to "decipher" (for lack of a better word) a normal animal into a mutant animal using the updared AtB2 system printed in the Rifter (or posted here by Erick). I wouldn't expect anymore world books either. If there is the off chance of additional books I'd like the aforementioned Encyclopedia as well as a compendium put together using all the old supplements and update the stuff in those for AtB2 into one book. We don't need AtB to turn Riftsdiculous on us by drowning a perfectly good setting with useless world books.

Rifts is just a sourcebook for AtB gone terrible awry.

psionicninja2000 wrote:Bah, just give me a supplement on what's going down in the Orient and Pacific Rim. Do we have China and Japan being ruled by two rival empires of Panda bears or not?

Why not make it up on your own?

Besides, you don't need EVERYTHING to play Rifts, just the books you want.

Debatable. Too many references made to other books.

And what you have in Rifts can be ported over to AtB right?

No.

psionicninja2000 wrote:Well, since I haven't really started collecting the other books, I can't really argue that one.

I bought Rifts the day it was released and was seduced by it for years, I kept up with all the source books and world books 'cause if I didn't keep up my players would and always wanted the new more powerful weapon or whatever that seems to come along with each new book.

Some people would say to that, just don't let them have it. If I didn't, they would leave and as you get older it's harder to find a group of people who enjoy RPGs that aren't mentally deranged so I played along to keep everyone involved happy.

Eventually, after I had about 30 or so books for Rifts I realized the world was alot more crowded than it should have been for the theme (IMO) and it was too detailed (IMO) and didn't leave much room for interpretation. So I sold it all and dusted off the books that originally brought me into Palladium in the first place...Car Wars...I mean TMNT & the original AtB. And when the Robotech license lapsed I saw a perfect opportunity to get into an RPG environment where I'd never have to worry about another world book being written so I bought the entire Robotech library as well.

Lynx8882 wrote:someone please correct me if im wrong but wasent Doc Feral mentioned in Skraypers?

gunman_4life wrote:He's mentioned in the Century Station book for HU there was a very long discussion on the HU board about wether he could be captured and brought to justice because the book said he was.

I have both those books, and recall him being mentioned in neither. Can anyone supply page numbers?

psionicninja2000 wrote:I would find the strength to put my foot down.

Thats easy to say if you've got plenty of people lined up to join your group. Unfortunuately I move every few years and as you get older it gets more and more difficult to find peope interested in PnP RPGs that aren't mentally deranged.

Necrite wrote:

Lynx8882 wrote:someone please correct me if im wrong but wasent Doc Feral mentioned in Skraypers?

gunman_4life wrote:He's mentioned in the Century Station book for HU there was a very long discussion on the HU board about wether he could be captured and brought to justice because the book said he was.

I have both those books, and recall him being mentioned in neither. Can anyone supply page numbers?

I too have these books & do not recall any mention of Doc Feral.

gordyzx9r wrote:

Johnny Chronic wrote:More than anything, I crave an Encylopedia Animalia...

Alot of us would like that too...but don't count on it. AtB just isn't as popular as Palladium's other titles...IMO, there isn't much profit in it. If that is the case, then what I'd like to see is some sort of universal template that one can use as a guide to "decipher" (for lack of a better word) a normal animal into a mutant animal using the updared AtB2 system printed in the Rifter (or posted here by Erick). I wouldn't expect anymore world books either. If there is the off chance of additional books I'd like the aforementioned Encyclopedia as well as a compendium put together using all the old supplements and update the stuff in those for AtB2 into one book. We don't need AtB to turn Riftsdiculous on us by drowning a perfectly good setting with useless world books.

Rifts is just a sourcebook for AtB gone terrible awry.

I'd just be happy with an occasional rifter's update on the mutants animals from the supplements

Has any one made Stats for Dr Farel?

What Stats do you think he should have?

gaby wrote:Has any one made Stats for Dr Farel?

What Stats do you think he should have?

His Stats are in the TMNT book on page 85