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New .50 Rifle

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 5:22 pm
by Mantisking
I stumbled over this over on the Rifts board. I have no idea what it was doing over there, but it's still cool.

Posted: Sat Apr 16, 2005 6:33 pm
by Jefffar
Yes, yes it is.



Anti-materiel rifles are one of my favourites.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 4:04 pm
by Guest
ash_wednesday wrote:My..those are BIG bullets...


I take it you've never seen 20mm rounds.

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2005 5:58 pm
by Jefffar
Or an 18lber howitzer shell.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 10:29 am
by Guest
Jefffar wrote:Yes, yes it is.



Anti-materiel rifles are one of my favourites.


Get WOTC's D20 Modern Weapons Locker, it's got several pages of Anti-materiel rifles to play with.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 6:26 pm
by Jefffar
Had it for several months allready.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 8:12 pm
by Guest
Jefffar wrote:Had it for several months allready.


Don't you love how the M16A4 has a picture of the AK-74U?

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:12 pm
by Guest
shortstop4313 wrote:Wow, bad editting isn't limited to Palladium.


No one ever said it was. FASA was notorious for it's problems as well. Several of the other companies out there don't do so hot either.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:27 pm
by Jefffar
Yeah, most RPG companies start out (and stay) pretty small, so they don't have the cash for a professional editor or continuity checker.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:31 pm
by Guest
Jefffar wrote:Yeah, most RPG companies start out (and stay) pretty small, so they don't have the cash for a professional editor or continuity checker.


Or a spell checker or a grammar checker, or a fact checker.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:34 pm
by Jefffar
Or moderators.

Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2005 9:39 pm
by Guest
Jefffar wrote:Or moderators.


Gotta be able to afford web designers first.

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2005 10:02 pm
by Guest
Ranger wrote:Nice weapon.


I'd rather see more 20mm AMRs than yet another .50 cal.

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2005 6:16 pm
by Jefffar
20 mm is over rated. In AMRs it's less acurrate and has a lesser effective range than the .50.

Now the 15.2 mm APDSFS weapon built by Steyr . . . that's a wicked toy

Posted: Sat May 07, 2005 9:40 am
by Guest
ash_wednesday wrote:
Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
ash_wednesday wrote:My..those are BIG bullets...


I take it you've never seen 20mm rounds.
Nope and I hope I don't..ever....Can we say "overkill"?


These aren't sniper rifles, they're anti-materiel rifles.

Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 11:47 pm
by Mantisking
I was watching FutureWeapons the other day, and they did a segment on the rifle I linked to.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 2:14 pm
by GhostKnight
The Barrett M82A1 is only 3 lb heavier and proven reliability. Why didn't they just go to a .416 Barrett?

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 6:55 pm
by Ten Tigers
What is "anti-material?"

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:40 pm
by Mantisking
Ten Tigers wrote:What is "anti-material?"

It means it's meant to be used primarily against light vehicles and buildings rather than people.

Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 7:45 pm
by Jefffar
Pretty much - the idea is to break stuff rather than go after people (which is why the innacuracy of .50 and 20 mm rounds used in the early weapons wasn't such a big deal).

Prime targets include light armoured vehicles, radar, communications systems, parked aircraft and similar breakable stuff. One Croation model was specifically created to shoot out the ight sights on Serbian T72 tanks.

The use of match grade .50 ammunition in more recent conflicts makes them potent man killers at extreme range (official kills from more than 2 miles away).

Posted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 7:47 am
by batlchip
Gotta love it when the start upgrading :-D

Posted: Sat Jul 21, 2007 10:21 am
by taalismn
Ouch...it's almost like the old big-caliber 'anti-tank rifles'...only much more useful....

Posted: Sun Jul 22, 2007 8:06 pm
by Jefffar
Well the .50 was origionally intended as an anti-tank weapon - so was the 14.5 mm used in some Russian Machineguns and a handful of AMRs.

So far , he only purpose built AMR round that's gotten past the prototype stage is the 15.2 mm Steyr Sabot round - though it's really a small basis of issue.

Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007 11:06 pm
by GhostKnight
You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 4:57 pm
by dragon_blaze_99
my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

I'm Canadian sorry

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 9:24 pm
by GhostKnight
dragon_blaze_99 wrote:my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

I'm Canadian sorry


Canadians are allowed to have guns? I thought they stopped by Germany to pick up armaments whenever they went out on maneuver.

:D

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 10:14 pm
by Jefffar
GhostKnight wrote:You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.


I still haven't figured out if this weapon is a high velocity, pinpoint grenade launcher or a low velocity anti-materiel weapon - it will be interesting to see how effective it becomes once development is complete.

Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 11:19 pm
by GhostKnight
Jefffar wrote:
GhostKnight wrote:You could go with a Barrett 25mm XM-109.


I still haven't figured out if this weapon is a high velocity, pinpoint grenade launcher or a low velocity anti-materiel weapon - it will be interesting to see how effective it becomes once development is complete.


Somewhat longer range and 2.5x more killing power.

Posted: Wed Jul 25, 2007 8:34 am
by Jefffar
Numbers are only a part of the effeciveness score.

Posted: Thu Jul 26, 2007 4:27 pm
by dragon_blaze_99
GhostKnight wrote:
dragon_blaze_99 wrote:my favorite gun
http://www.snipercentral.com/c3a1.htm

I'm Canadian sorry


Canadians are allowed to have guns? I thought they stopped by Germany to pick up armaments whenever they went out on maneuver.

:D
only 2 days a year with special permits and looooooooots of paper work