Why do YOU hate the CS?
Posted: Mon Aug 15, 2005 6:48 pm
We have seen so many arguments on this, its time to get straight (and in one place) answers!
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damn rightRes_Novae wrote:*Refers everyone to mech-viper's sig.*
Never thought of that reasoning before......Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
C.R.A.F.T. wrote:I think they are misunderstood.
It's easier to rule with an iron fist in an environment such as that.
Their goals are laudable, it's just the methods they use that are repulsive.
Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
RainOfSteel wrote:Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
That was impressive. I think I'm going to save a copy of that away for the future.
chosen people they arecornholioprime wrote:Almost forgot to reply.
Don't "hate" or "love" the CS, as I've so often said before.....
..just the way "God" protects them...
Snippersly wrote:Get your guns boys...the Dbees are coming and you're the bottom of the food chain.
Snippersly
Snippersly wrote:Lie to yourselves if you want to, but you all know that if Rifts opened and hell spawned deamons and Dbees poured through you would all band together and fight for human supremecy. Sure, sure you would live in Lazlo in peace...yeah right. The CS is humanities salvation and the humans know it. You know it too but can't admit it. So a leader is corrupt, so what...politicians are today whats the difference. A bad leader doesnt make a bad nation. Get your guns boys...the Dbees are coming and you're the bottom of the food chain.
Snippersly
Snippersly wrote: Get your guns boys...the Dbees are coming and you're the bottom of the food chain.
Snippersly
Get your guns boys...the Dbees are coming and you're the bottom of the food chain.
Dark Brandon wrote:The only thing I hate about them is that it's too easy to hate them.
You have a pleathroa of reasons to hate them, the majority of players only see the evil of CS and rarely concider the bravery the CS holds, the good and the strong.
I hate the CS because if it wasn't for the likes of me, they'd be boring one dimentional enemies.
cornholioprime wrote:Never thought of that reasoning before......Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
cornholioprime wrote:Almost forgot to reply.
Don't "hate" or "love" the CS, as I've so often said before.....
..just the way "God" protects them...
Dark Brandon wrote:The only thing I hate about them is that it's too easy to hate them.
You have a pleathroa of reasons to hate them, the majority of players only see the evil of CS and rarely concider the bravery the CS holds, the good and the strong.
I hate the CS because if it wasn't for the likes of me, they'd be boring one dimentional enemies.
Omote wrote:The Coalition States RULE! Mainly because they are the only one's fighting for MY planet! Just because of a minor slip up some 400 years ago doesn't mean every devil-spawned D-Bee in the Megaverse can call this place its home.
WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!
..........................................Omote
FPQ
Toc Rat wrote:cornholioprime wrote:Never thought of that reasoning before......Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
I would also add that they are being counter productive and not true human supremicists by not using magic. If they were to make the vanguard once again a formal part of their military it would have devastating consequences for the rest of North America if not the world.
Kalinda wrote:Toc Rat wrote:cornholioprime wrote:Never thought of that reasoning before......Kalinda wrote:None of the above. If there's anything I hate about the CS it's the fact that they waste their time and energy fighting tolkeen and killing harmless D-bees when there are baby eating demons running around unopposed. The CS should be going after the demon kingdom of calgary, the FoM and the Xiticix. they should be patrolling the coasts and fighting off slavers and pirates, stopping bandits and slaying vampires.
I would also add that they are being counter productive and not true human supremicists by not using magic. If they were to make the vanguard once again a formal part of their military it would have devastating consequences for the rest of North America if not the world.
Yup.
One thing that occurred to me awhile ago is that like it or not, it may be that the only sure way to control/harness a rift is using magic. I'm not positive because theres so little info in the books about them, but wouldn't it be interesting if they had no choice but to adopt magic in order to meet their goals?
Janissary wrote:1. Begin new propaganda efforts to generate positive opinions about the CS amongst the peoples of the surrounding areas.
2. As part of propaganda give "good faith" gifts and treaties to Free Quebec in order to form a stronger alliance.
3. Acknowledge the Vanguard and re-create CS magic division similar to the Psi Division. Run pro magic propaganda PRIOR to announcements. A year should do it.
4. Continue to run Pro-human and anti alien propaganda. It gives the people something to hate and therefore will keep them united under the emperor's rule.
5. Offer formal non-aggression pact to New Lazlo and Lazlo. Part of pact will be setting of borders. Have pact re-newable every 10 years. This will (hopefully) generate good will within those states and allow time for the CS to rebuild it's forces, develope new tactics based on Tolkeen offensive and fully intergrate the new Magic division in to the regular army. By adopting magic(human only, NO demon summoning) and the pro magic propaganda running in the CS itself this will cause Lazlo and New Lazlo to believe that the CS is slowly coming around toward a more tolerant attitude.
6. Work on diversifing resources. Currently the CS state of Missouri is the central farmland of the CS states. If those farmlands were to be destroyed it would be a serious threat to CS security and well being.
7. After incorporating the Vanguard and magic divisions in to the army, conduct a series of exercises pitting them against the current CS defenses, correct any problems. Then conduct a second series of exercises designed to utilize all battle field systems such as air support, infantry, artillery, psionics, magic, ECM, mechanized. This will ensure that the next war, be it offensive or defensive will go smoother then it otherwise might have.
8. After non-aggression pact with Lazlo, New Lazlo is in effect and after rebuilding or army is complete, start new offensive against Xiticix. If at all possible arrange for Lazlo or New Lazlo to render aid or atleast come in to direct confrontation with Xiticix. If done properly it will further create a feeling of trust in those nations, thus making a surprise attack against them easyer when the time comes.
9. Continue the bans on certain vids, books, etc. but start program ro promote literacy amongst the population. Tie this new program into propanganda effort. A message like"now that the monsters at Tolkeen are no longer attacking us, your Emperor can devote his attention to YOU the loyal citizens of the great human Coalition States." Something like that should do well. It will generate feelings of accomplishment among the population and make the war seems like Tolkeen was the aggressor. Stress the part of the Emperor taking care of his people and their needs.
10. As part of rebuilding, tie in new recruiting/retention benefits to propaganda efforts. The feelings of national pride and affection for the Emperor should swell the ranks of the armed forces.
I could go on but this is already becoming too long.
Nxla666 wrote:Get your guns boys...the Dbees are coming and you're the bottom of the food chain.
Lets see, heavy Deadboy Armor...check
Vibro-knife...check
CP-50...check
Spare ammo...check
OK now, WHO'S GOIN' D-BEE HUNTIN'
Toc Rat wrote:Dark Brandon wrote:The only thing I hate about them is that it's too easy to hate them.
You have a pleathroa of reasons to hate them, the majority of players only see the evil of CS and rarely concider the bravery the CS holds, the good and the strong.
I hate the CS because if it wasn't for the likes of me, they'd be boring one dimentional enemies.
Wait, hold the phone, back up. YOU hate the CS?! Have you looked at your name lately? "In Prosek we trust"...If that isn't a condoning of them and their actions I don't know what is...
Azrael wrote:I love the Coalition States. They provide me with an ample supply of D-Bee souls and spill the blood of countless innocents to help me reawaken my sleeping masters. Keep it up boys, good work.
Toc Rat wrote:Omote wrote:The Coalition States RULE! Mainly because they are the only one's fighting for MY planet! Just because of a minor slip up some 400 years ago doesn't mean every devil-spawned D-Bee in the Megaverse can call this place its home.
WE MUST PROTECT THIS HOUSE!
..........................................Omote
FPQ
The only ones? Have you read any of the other books? What about the NGR? The New Navy? The Republic of Japan? Heard of them? The list goes on and on too.
cornholioprime wrote:Almost forgot to reply.
Don't "hate" or "love" the CS, as I've so often said before.....
..just the way "God" protects them...
Omote wrote: My the gods bless Emperor Prosek and Chi-Town... oh, and Missouri too!
.......................................Omote
FPQ
yeah just not as bad as jean and his FQ neo-nazi bunch as less in chi-town's burbs you can find d-beesToc Rat wrote:Omote wrote: My the gods bless Emperor Prosek and Chi-Town... oh, and Missouri too!
.......................................Omote
FPQ
Pssst! he already has blessed good ole Carl and his nation of neo-nazi facists.
Mech-Viper wrote:yeah just not as bad as jean and his FQ neo-nazi bunch as less in chi-town's burbs you can find d-beesToc Rat wrote:Omote wrote: My the gods bless Emperor Prosek and Chi-Town... oh, and Missouri too!
.......................................Omote
FPQ
Pssst! he already has blessed good ole Carl and his nation of neo-nazi facists.
That's not a bad thought, either...Illithid13 wrote:I only dislike the CS because they are untouchable because KS loves them so. otherwise, I see them as both great and poor gaming fluff.
I love to play magic users and as a such, I'm usually playing as an anti CS position, but I've played a great game where we were all CS solders and throughly enjoyed it.
I guess you'd say I'm kind of neutral on this one.
The Sovereign wrote:Krytykyll Hytt wrote:Sick of politics. Liberals. Conservatives. War. Garbage. Countries. Drugs. Crime. Crap. Debating. Uncertainty. Injustice. Don't know what to do. Only know how I feel. Have a world to save. Don't have the strength. Why am I only one? Why am I only human? If I'm mostly right is that OK? Am I wrong? Please forgive me... How do people ignore the pain? I've never been happy. I can't go on.
Could you...try making sense?
because they remind me of nazi's and I'm a trained archaeologist
It's like...mortal enemies
Shades of Eternity wrote:because they remind me of nazi's and I'm a trained archaeologist
It's like...mortal enemies
K20A2_S wrote:It's amazing how many people that play the game who just automatically jump on the CS HATE WAGON........I am not going to lie, when I was a kid I was on it, but once I started reading the comple context of everything and truly seeing the world through the eyes of human whom would be stuck on a planet like RIFTS earth.....it was clear as day to me why the CS has the policies they do.