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Anti Nanite Bacteria.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 9:36 pm
by Jesterzzn
If the Librarians can create RNA strands from scratch, what is stopping them from creating a bacteria with the specific purpose of fighting the Nanites?

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:15 pm
by NMI
a) they cant study the nanites without killing themselves
b) they would need a very detailed knowledge of the nanites and how they work, etc...
c) the best the could possible due is to try and study a techno jacker without getting killed/ attacked by its nanites.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 10:37 pm
by Jesterzzn
The Deific NMI wrote:a) they cant study the nanites without killing themselves
b) they would need a very detailed knowledge of the nanites and how they work, etc...
c) the best the could possible due is to try and study a techno jacker without getting killed/ attacked by its nanites.


a) Why not? Surely there are ways to study without putting the Librarians in direct harms way.

b) Not necessarily, they need only know what they are made of in order to create a bacteria capable of "eating" them.

c) I don't understand what you mean here.

Posted: Wed Oct 26, 2005 11:01 pm
by zor_prime1
Here are my thoughts on the subject:

a) The librarians should already be infected with the nanites. They can't touch metal either as far as I know. The problem is that what would they use to study them?

b) Actually, they would need to find out how small they actually are. The nanites would likely be smaller than bacteria spores. But either way, the bacteria would need to eat metal, somehow prevent nanites from reproducing or prevent their power source from functioning. In most cases it would mean a bacteria that would likely be lethal to humans or at least sickening to humans in such a large dose. It would still even make metal or machines useless to humans. Anything the bacteria would do to the nanites, it would most likely do to metal and machines so humans would only lose the danger of being hurt by metal. They still couldn't fight machines using machines.

c) Their best bet would be trying to study the techno jackers who are immune to the nanites. If the gene or reason could be isolated then these rejected humans may end up being the saviors of the human race. The problem is, how do you use any gene discoveries on normal humans? The book says that the librarians are intent on leaving humans unchanged by their technology. I think the best they could do is make splicer suits that could wield metal safely with a human pilot inside.


zor

Posted: Fri Oct 28, 2005 2:55 pm
by Jesterzzn
zor_prime1 wrote:Here are my thoughts on the subject:

a) The librarians should already be infected with the nanites. They can't touch metal either as far as I know. The problem is that what would they use to study them?

b) Actually, they would need to find out how small they actually are. The nanites would likely be smaller than bacteria spores. But either way, the bacteria would need to eat metal, somehow prevent nanites from reproducing or prevent their power source from functioning. In most cases it would mean a bacteria that would likely be lethal to humans or at least sickening to humans in such a large dose. It would still even make metal or machines useless to humans. Anything the bacteria would do to the nanites, it would most likely do to metal and machines so humans would only lose the danger of being hurt by metal. They still couldn't fight machines using machines.

c) Their best bet would be trying to study the techno jackers who are immune to the nanites. If the gene or reason could be isolated then these rejected humans may end up being the saviors of the human race. The problem is, how do you use any gene discoveries on normal humans? The book says that the librarians are intent on leaving humans unchanged by their technology. I think the best they could do is make splicer suits that could wield metal safely with a human pilot inside.


zor

A) Well I was under the impression that the librarians were mad scientists of a sort, and as such would not be opposed to using humans a lab mice in small numbers at any rate. They could observe, and use their gigantic minds to deduce. It's not very far fetched if you are willing to accept that they exist in the first place.

B) The nanites are stated to be unable to self replicate so that's not a problem. The bacteria themselves could be made too small to effect molecules larger than the nanites, which are stated to be smaller than bacteria in the first place.

C) Another good idea.