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I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?
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Shadowmagic wrote:
Spectre wrote:I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?


http://skepdic.com/chi.html
:rolleyes: Trust the skeptics to screw things up with their undeducated ideas about things. Disregard at least half of that page as flat out untrue (it looks more like it was written to refute N&S than the real world concept).

Basically boiled down, Chi is a natural energy (not supernatural or spiritual) which exists in all things and manifests in the body as "breath" or "life breath" (as opposed to Shen, "vital essence/soul substance," and Jing/Ging "coiling energy"). Imblances between Yin and Yang forces mess things up, so naturally this was applied to the concept of Chi as well.

That's about as quick and dirty as you're going to get.
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Thanks, I was hoping for more than just a book definition.
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Spectre wrote:Thanks, I was hoping for more than just a book definition.


Then I recommend checking out several books on the subject and related topics. MacKenzie's Myths of China and Japan has some interesting information, but Oriental Medicine by Jan Van Alphen & Anthony Aris is rooted more in practical applications. Sources on Feng Shui and Qigong/Chi Kung/Chi Gung would also be useful.
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macksting wrote:How does it apply as regards attention?


I think that was just Erick's way of trying to explain it.
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Spectre wrote:I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?


It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
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MaddogMatarese wrote:
Spectre wrote:I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?


It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
Yes, that's where George got the idea.
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Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
MaddogMatarese wrote:
Spectre wrote:I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?


It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
Yes, that's where George got the idea.


Yeah, once I started reading more into the chi powers it left me with that thought too. :D
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MaddogMatarese wrote:
Kuseru Satsujin wrote:
MaddogMatarese wrote:
Spectre wrote:I was wondering...

What is the real world idea of chi?


It's an energy field created by all living things. It surrounds us, penetrates us, it binds the galaxy together.
Yes, that's where George got the idea.


Yeah, once I started reading more into the chi powers it left me with that thought too. :D
George had a lot of inspiration from oriental sources.

* Derived from (among other things) the Akira Kurosawa film Kakushi toride no san akunin (1958) (The Hidden Fortress) -- mostly in the characters of R2D2 and C3P0. and C-3PO and R2-D2 are derived from the characters of Matakishi and Taihei, two farmers/ne'er-do-wells Mifune's character, a samurai general, conscripted to help ferry his princess out of enemy territory. Two characters in the Japanese film were split to produce four in "Star Wars": aspects of Toshirô Mifune's samurai character became Ben Kenobi and Han Solo; and aspects of the Princess's character became Luke and Leia (early production art exists showing a female lead character rather than Luke).

* C-3PO loses an arm when attacked by the Sandpeople. Ben cuts off a creature's hand in the Cantina (see also Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (1980) and Star Wars: Episode VI - Return of the Jedi (1983)). The scene in which Ben cuts off the bad guy's arm is a direct reference to Yojimbo (1961); the same scene was the basis for Clint Eastwood's "My mule doesn't like to be laughed at" scene in Per un pugno di dollari (1964) (A Fistful of Dollars); in the original Japanese film, one of the bad guys tells Sanjuro (Toshirô Mifune) how bad he is and how he's a convicted murderer. Sanjuro taunts the bad guys into attacking him ("Are you sure you want me to kill you? It'll *hurt* you know...") and leaves two dead and one with his arm chopped off.

* Before casting Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi, George Lucas considered casting Japanese actor Toshirô Mifune.

*The word "Jedi" is derived from the Japanese words "Jidai Geki" which translate as "period drama." A period drama is a Japanese TV soap opera program set in the samurai days. George Lucas mentioned in an interview that he saw a "Jidai Geki" program on TV while in Japan a year or so before the movie was made and liked the word.

* Lucas acknowledges his debt to Akira Kurosawa's Kakushi toride no san akunin (1958) "Hidden Fortress" in the first conference room scene on the Death Star. Just as an Imperial Officer is saying the line "...the Rebel's hidden fort..." he is telekinetically strangled by Darth Vader, shutting him up before he can say the full title.

*George Lucas said in an interview that Darth Vader was based on Hakaider, a villain from the superhero TV series, "Jinzô ningen Kikaidâ" (1972), which he saw while he was in Japan.

Another Fun Fact: While Lucas was filming on location in Tunisia, the Libyan government became worried about a massive military vehicle parked near the Libyan border. Consequently, the Tunisian government, receiving threats of military mobilization, politely asked Lucas to move his Jawa sandcrawler farther away from the border.
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Kuseru Satsujin wrote:Another Fun Fact: While Lucas was filming on location in Tunisia, the Libyan government became worried about a massive military vehicle parked near the Libyan border. Consequently, the Tunisian government, receiving threats of military mobilization, politely asked Lucas to move his Jawa sandcrawler farther away from the border.


:lol: Never heard about this before!
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Largely it would depend on who you ask. For a Classical Chinese Answer something along the lines of; The Essential Energy of Life which permeates your body, is released and rejuvenated as Breath, and which disipates into the world when you die. It is vitality. The Sketpic page was largely correct, Qi is an aspect of vitalism.
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I still say my answer's better. :P
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MaddogMatarese wrote:I still say my answer's better. :P


Well it truth it's actually pretty good, save that the Chinese didn't classical think of it as a 'Field', that's a latter invention of 19th century Occultists. Qi is classicaly described either as Breath, Lightning or Liquid. Also Qi doesn't have the 'Good/Bad' duality that exists in 'The Force', but rather a Yin/Yang Duality which is not the same thing. For Example, Fire is a Yang Principal, so is Lightning, both of which are destructive. Fever is caused by an excess of Yang energy. Yang and Yin are more closely related to the principals of Active/Passive rather than Good and Evil, which are a seperate discussion from the Yin-Yang principal, in general.
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Chi is bullshido garbage. Accept it.
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