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Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:01 am
by glitterboy2098
dead thread walking......

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 11:40 am
by DhAkael
:P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P :P
This forum is of course the property of Palladium Books, and thus it's their ball-park.
They make the rules.
You want to talk about this stuff..much as it galls me to say it... you should do it over msn or some other forum.
Cuz Big Brother is under imperial edict to smite your sorry hiney if you so much as HINT about another intellectual property in here.
Thank GOD I live in canada where this isn't a big deal yet. But since PBooks.com is American, tread lightly young grass-jumper, tread lightly :D

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 4:02 pm
by Tinker Dragoon
I have no idea what a slipstream drive is. If it's something that was invented for a particular science fiction show, then it certainly is not allowed, though if there was a real-world scientific basis for it, it might be tolerable (within limits).

By the name, I'd guess it was something that involved creating an area of reduced pressure in front of a vehicle, but how this would be relevant in the void of space I don't know...

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 7:45 pm
by Carl Gleba
A Slipstream drive is from the Andromeda Ascendent series. I don't know the rules as well as the mods darkmax. I think talking about it is Ok, but trying to apply it to a Palladium game is a no no. It has to do with intellectual properties and companies like to keep their ideas separate from each other to avoid confusion. Yeah I know how are gamers like us going to get confused, but thems the rules and the law. It would be like trying to convert a marvel or DC character using Heroes Unlimited which is a big violation of the rules.

I realize your probably trying to make for an interesting discussion in this forum, but the mods are here to enforce the rules to protect Palladium. Sorry.

Mods if I have misspoken please correct me.

Thanks,

Carl

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:27 pm
by DhAkael
Terribly sorry for the snarkiness.
But as one can tell, the whole IntProp thing is kinda tiring to me.
I understand its need, but american copy-right laws need some serious re-think...but it's not my place to change 'em and this forum IS Pall-Books ball-park.
We's gots to play by 'dere rulz!
OI!

Posted: Tue Mar 07, 2006 9:40 pm
by Borast
darkmax wrote:BTW I live in Singapore.


Canadian prairies myself...

As for the slipstream drive...maybe.

It could loosly be described as a technological version of a TW rift drive.

Re-name (your version of) the drive and you might avoid the thread being killed.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:15 am
by Tinker Dragoon
Carl Gleba wrote:A Slipstream drive is from the Andromeda Ascendent series.


Ah, okay. Yeah, I remember the "slip portals" and all that now. That doesn't seem to be anything different than the rift drives that are already in the books, although the fictional science behind it is probably unique.

I don't know the rules as well as the mods darkmax. I think talking about it is Ok, but trying to apply it to a Palladium game is a no no.


Depends on what people are talking about, really. "Slipstream drive" and "warp drive" are meaningless on their own, but the latter at least is familiar to people (and probably trademarked). To some extent the drive systems in science fiction stories are based on real scientific principles, but there's usually some fictional component (e.g. Minovsky particles, Alice strings, etc.) which makes them somebody's property. I guess this will require a bit more digging...

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:19 pm
by acreRake
So, the ship projects a "Slip-N-Slide" in front of it, and "skips" off that into 5th dimensional non-gravitic space? :crane:

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 1:26 pm
by Ectoplasmic Bidet
acreRake wrote:So, the ship projects a "Slip-N-Slide" in front of it, and "skips" off that into 5th dimensional non-gravitic space? :crane:


Kinda makes me wonder what it must feel like when you hit a dry patch at full speed... :shock:

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 5:54 pm
by Jefffar
Since it's been tossed around here a few times in the last few weeks, I thought I would clarify the Copyright rules for you all.

1) It is against the rules to post Palladium Books Game Statistics or post a link containing Palladium Books Game Statistics of material copywritten by anyone other than Palladium Books.

2) It is against the rules to make posts encouraging the unauthorized distribution of copywritten works (Palladium or otherwise) or to post a link to a site encouraging the unauthorized distribution of copywritten works.

3) It is against the rules to solicit either of the above.

4) It is allowed to discuss other's copywritten material and the inspiration it may have on your games provided you do not break the above rules.

NOTE on Robotech, Macross II and TMNT: Because the licence on those properties has expired, they must be treated as belonging to another company.


Thanks.

Posted: Wed Mar 08, 2006 9:52 pm
by Borast
Ectoplasmic Bidet wrote:
acreRake wrote:So, the ship projects a "Slip-N-Slide" in front of it, and "skips" off that into 5th dimensional non-gravitic space? :crane:


Kinda makes me wonder what it must feel like when you hit a dry patch at full speed... :shock:


Don't go there... :?

:lol:

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:10 am
by Gomen_Nagai
the equivalent of Slip streaming in AU is quantum ribbon riding. ... which they have rules for in AU Galaxy Guide, but no ships capable of doing itas their only method ( but they say you need 100cubic feet and 10 spaces) to install a hypergravitic Generator....

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:08 pm
by Gomen_Nagai
yes, quantum Ribon riding is in the rule book for AU Galaxy Guide.

Posted: Thu Mar 09, 2006 9:22 pm
by Malakai
Actually, The "Warp" drive has been theoretically independant of the Company/series for which it is widely known. Additionally, I find it a suitible explanation for the Gravitonic drive, as that drive would use it's gravity-affecting properties to warp the space time around the vessel in the ways needed/ As for your "Slip-strem" drive, I am not familiar with it.

Posted: Sat Mar 11, 2006 11:17 pm
by Tinker Dragoon
darkmax wrote:
Malakai wrote:Actually, The "Warp" drive has been theoretically independant of the Company/series for which it is widely known. Additionally, I find it a suitible explanation for the Gravitonic drive, as that drive would use it's gravity-affecting properties to warp the space time around the vessel in the ways needed/ As for your "Slip-strem" drive, I am not familiar with it.


Warp as a word is not a patented term, but I'm not so sure of the term Warp Drive, Warp Factor, etc.


Meh, I think we've beaten the dead horse enough. If you want to be really careful and not step on any hypothetical toes, just call them Alcubierre drive or Hyper-drive and you'll be perfectly safe. ;)

Posted: Sat Mar 25, 2006 7:26 am
by Chronicle
Correct me if i am Wrong. Isn't Slip stream a retrofited model of starlanes. if that is so, Slip stream would be a dimension off set allowing someone to open a hole from normal space to enter it, therefore mapping of the slip would be required in order to plot accurate coordinates. Jus ta thought.

Posted: Mon Mar 27, 2006 4:30 pm
by Chronicle
The Starlane theory usually has something to do with the connection of two large gravity wells. Usually a couple of stars set up as kind of a natural jumpoint between starsystems. mostly travel between stars would have to be made from specific locations and such kind of like a web.

Posted: Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:54 pm
by Chronicle
No, direct connection Via wormhole networks, all of which connected only through the gravitational influence in the vecinity of a star or star system