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splugorth satellites. Has anyone created a few of these? how about ones powered by eyes of eyelor?

As for communication and surveillance (be it meteorology,
geology or just plan ol' spying) I think the Sploogs usually
use Kittani - read: mundane, high tech.

Somehow I have the gut feeling that magic is better suited to
deal with large amoung of boring data (but is great to find
that needle in a haystack).

However, as surveillance drones (sent in to investigate a
system) go, EoE can be a part of it - providing mystic
stealth (invisibility) for example.

As purely biowizardry based sats/drones...

...maybe there are a few of them used to spy on really
high tech systems, like the Altess, where "countermagic"
is lower, than "countertech".

In that context, they are powerfull tools, but also very
expensive.

And as Sploog design goes, they are probably include
a high lord bioborged into the spy craft, who - floating
in slime - superwise the op.
On the other hand, several EoE surveillance eyes
(similar the ones described by the Slaver) can be
assigned to the mothercraft.

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One last "flavor".

Again, with my gut feeling about magic... I mean, if you
manage to insert a spy sat to monitor the communication
of a planet, you will get a rather large amount of "public"
data, which can be used to form a psyhological profile
about that society, get an overall picture of their everyday
life.

If that planet is subjected to magical surveillance, the
observer gets fewer, but more in-depth information.
However, it might very well be a rather important
piece of information.
Also, it is in the form of feelings, not cold, exact digital
data. Maybe even to the point of being cryptic.

(Kinda like Rifts Africa. The CS and the Triax expeditions
probably gathered a vast amount of data, detailing flora
and fauna, precise maps, etc.
Mystics had that less-then-exact warning about the Four
Horsemen.)

Adios
KLM

Don’t forget that while the Splugorth are an ancient race they are relatively new to space travel. They do most of their communications and traveling through magical means, by ley lines rifts and dimensions travel. The Splugorth kingdoms in PW are old but have expanded very slowly thanks to their over reliance on magic to get them places. It has only been in the last say couple thousand years that they felt the need for space fleets and that is only because…. Lets wait for the book to come out.

Well past but as KLM has pointed out they use Kitanni for their space travel/satilites

DReam-Probes...the secret alien satellites that listen in on your unconscious mind as you sleep.....

Greyaxe wrote:Don’t forget that while the Splugorth are an ancient race they are relatively new to space travel.

Well... Exactly how Lord Splynn encountered the remains of
the Kittani fleet? As I recall it happened in space and some dosen
millenia ago...

So, while they are relatively new to the Three Galaxies,
they had like 38.000 years to excange ideas with the
Kittani.

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Dream probes? Yeah, definitely.

Somewhere in Atlantis it is mentioned, that Lord
S. maintains an 1984 level surveillance net (though
appearently not such a rigid security).

Adios
KLM

With magic? Of course.

Adios
KLM

Darkmax wrote:no privacy whatsoever......

Welcome to Galactic-Band Dreamtapping and the Bold New Future of Paranoia....

And soup it up for commercial use.

Seriously... With all the psionic and magic resources
of the Splugorth orchestrating anything against him
is as a demanding task...

Well it took a really powerfull Palpatine to try to go
against the Jedi... While of course it took place in
a galaxy far-far away, the problem is generally
the same...

Adios
KLM

Sounds like an interesting topic. Figures someone would start something like this when I'm away.

Darkmax wrote:many under-estimate the power of one individual against a whole army.If properly use, a single person can execute what a whole army or even a specialized group cannot.

Especially if the magic is real in that scenario (or psionic,
Force, whatever). What is more - it takes a powerfull individual
who - by his/her magic abilities - can remain hidden from
magic surveillance.

Would we be getting some form of censorship on certain "wet" dreams?..... And also, would "wet" dreams involving certain celebrities be liable for a lawsuit?.....

As for Sploog dream control, they probably do not
monitor each and every subject.

What is more - the majority of minions and slaves
are not even aware of the possibility. It is strictly
used on "suspicious" individuals, who attracted
the attention of authorities by other means.
(For example Clairvoyance).

Adios
KLM

Have people decided what sort we are talking abouot. I mean proxies are one thing and things that orbit your planet being something else.

That works. And they can be crewed by proxies.

I like the "hear my own voice" , so I repost my first in this forum,
for the bold part's sake.

KLM wrote:As for communication and surveillance (be it meteorology,
geology or just plan ol' spying) I think the Sploogs usually
use Kittani - read: mundane, high tech.

Somehow I have the gut feeling that magic is better suited to
deal with large amoung of boring data (but is great to find
that needle in a haystack).

However, as surveillance drones (sent in to investigate a
system) go, EoE can be a part of it - providing mystic
stealth (invisibility) for example.

As purely biowizardry based sats/drones...

...maybe there are a few of them used to spy on really
high tech systems, like the Altess, where "countermagic"
is lower, than "countertech".

In that context, they are powerfull tools, but also very
expensive.

And as Sploog design goes, they are probably include
a high lord bioborged into the spy craft, who - floating
in slime - superwise the op.
On the other hand, several EoE surveillance eyes
(similar the ones described by the Slaver) can be
assigned to the mothercraft.

---------
One last "flavor".

Again, with my gut feeling about magic... I mean, if you
manage to insert a spy sat to monitor the communication
of a planet, you will get a rather large amount of "public"
data, which can be used to form a psyhological profile
about that society, get an overall picture of their everyday
life.

If that planet is subjected to magical surveillance, the
observer gets fewer, but more in-depth information.
However, it might very well be a rather important
piece of information.
Also, it is in the form of feelings, not cold, exact digital
data. Maybe even to the point of being cryptic.

(Kinda like Rifts Africa. The CS and the Triax expeditions
probably gathered a vast amount of data, detailing flora
and fauna, precise maps, etc.
Mystics had that less-then-exact warning about the Four
Horsemen.)

Adios
KLM

That is very good idea KLM! I hope you don't mind if I use your idea in my game.

Of course. Everyone have their own houserules,
tweaks from canon, etc.

That is why I do not bother with stats (well, usually),
'cause odds are that whoever use the stuff I came
up with, will modify somehow anyway.

And that is the point, sharing my genius...
Cough, cough...


Adios
KLM

I don't modify other people's creations! Now my own and the canon stuff, those can be modified up the yingyang.

Yepp, ban them outright

Adios
KLM

I hope those satellites are coming along at a good pace!

The sploogie ones!

And if those satellites could transmit that ley line energy to a predetermined point on a planet surface.....say a pyramid to recieve that controled energy.

Darkmax wrote:Hee.... Just joking.

Can you imagine a Sploogie satelite network that controls the flow of ley lines coming in or going out into the space around the planet?

THAT is categorised as a space station.

A giant, MDC stone d4 or d8 (well, even maybe a d6
- ie. a cube)...

Adios
KLM

It doesn't have to be huge.

You have to admit that it would be cool to look at from their prespective! And ominous to the others!

But it works for sploogies.

They have been doing this sort of thing for many millenniums.

The sploogies could also put one heck of a magic defense net around a world they claimed. Heck they could put that sort of net around a world they were going to harvest slaves from.

It'd be quite a surprise to both of those you mentioned.

That is very true!

Conservators come into mind.

LOL That is very true KLM!!!

Most RIFTS material have HUGE potential in it.

Sadly, even Palladium does not expand it.

I mean CJ Carella did some of it - and he was then
banned from the Pantheon, being "munchkin".

Sad...

Adios
KLM

KLM wrote:Most RIFTS material have HUGE potential in it.

Sadly, even Palladium does not expand it.

I mean CJ Carella did some of it - and he was then
banned from the Pantheon, being "munchkin".

Sad...

Adios
KLM

It wasn't long after the paladium line started to show signs of weakness.

Come on, lets not think these dark thoughts. Things are going to be better.

Then everyone! Let's think positive thoughts!

We are talking about Sploogie satellites!

Does that mean you'd have to put the regular EoE in some sort of fertilizer to get them to grow to a decent sized satellite?

I was just teasing about that.

I was hoping you would get it right away!

Everyone is once in a while. I know I am.


So what else should we put on a sploogie satellite?

What about energy dampening? I believe there is a spell which does this.

What about jamming communications!

That is along the lines I was thinking about too.

Darkmax wrote:Ability to take over other orbiting satellites.... or merge with them.

That is more like the role of Kittannii technological sattelites...
which of course are asking for a TW/Biowizardry (=EoE) upgrade.

Adios
KLM

I guess it does scream that too.

Kittani high-tech sattelites TW-ed by Sploogs...

Well, after pondering on the idea, I think that since the
Sploogs are doing their best to prevent the tech-apes
to learn magic, plus they are quite self-assured in
their magic, such blending of technologies is just
not gonna happen.

Or...

Well, if one takes a high-lord, who acquires a bunch
of Kittani underlings, who are strictly his personal
"employees", yet they are also strictly forbidden
from the magic details...

I mean for such a high lord, a Dragon Dread
is a viable personal vehicle. It can have EoE
upgrades, TW-ed spy-drones, etc. But those
are unique (nothing mass produced, like Stormspire),
and the magic stuff is clearly an addition to
the technological craft (and cannot be operated
by the Kittani pilots).

just my 0.02 UTC.

Adios
KLM

The Sploogies have all of those Tech minions to rely upon for their technology. But they can always put bio tech on their stuff along with it. And since it was created in house they can build them cheaper.

Someone still has to pay for the raw materials.

Not exactly. I mean a sploogie dominion's "output" is
measurable and finite amount.

So, while a high lord (or even a sploog intelligence)
does not have to pay for a sattelite, there are no
limitless amounts of those sats are aviable. Therefore
they have to distribute them among the various
minions, based on something.

Ssssooo... Why do not call that something "credits"?

Adios
KLM