which mutant animals would you like me to right up

Rali · Unread post by **Rali** » Tue Feb 06, 2007 12:25 pm

A Cerberus (along with several other mythologic creatures) has already been posted by gordyzx9r in this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=22763&highlight=cerberus

9voltkilowatt · Tue Feb 06, 2007 10:50 pm

Would love to see a hyena done, pound for pound they kick a sharks @ss in regards to biting power!

Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 9:51 am

stonewall wrote:how about the:

Aye-Aye http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aye-aye

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Guest · Unread post by **Guest** » Wed Feb 07, 2007 8:51 pm

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gordyzx9r · Unread post by **gordyzx9r** » Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:02 am

Rali wrote:A Cerberus (along with several other mythologic creatures) has already been posted by gordyzx9r in this thread:

viewtopic.php?t=22763&highlight=cerberus

Umm...just to clarify, it was posted by me, but it wasn't created by me. I can't remember who did those originally, but I liked them enough to copy/paste. I was just helping someone out in that thread...but someone else is due the credit.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Feb 13, 2007 7:51 pm

Excellent...

For my "Wanna see THIS..", I submitt the Giant Isopod;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giant_isopod

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 11:31 pm

duck-foot wrote:Grays.

Very funky, with shades of X-Files and Metaluna Mutants...
But no "Disadvantage: Obsessive-Compulsive Behavior: Probing"?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Feb 19, 2007 11:11 pm

duck-foot wrote:Arctic Package
BIO-E Cost: 10
Attributes Bonuses: As base animal plus, +2 P.S., +1 P.E.
Arctic Fur: The character is resistant to the effects of the coldest weather. Anhy non-magical cold based attack on the character deals 1/4 damage.
Thick Matted Fur: +15 SDC. This fur tends to make the character look very poofy.

This can be used to create any arctic animal from polar bears to mammoth.

I've suddenly found this very useful in outfitting a race of space-dwelling evolved mice/kangaroo rats adapted to mining asteroids and cometary nuclei...

Thanks!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:11 pm

duck-foot wrote:Radioactive Package:
BIO-E Cost: 20).

Oh No, THere Goes Tokyo!
Go-Go, Godzilla!

Sorry, DF, it was too tempting....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Feb 21, 2007 10:13 pm

duck-foot wrote:Feral Package:.

This, like the Radiation Package, walks a fine line between being an Advantage and a Disadvantage...

Use carefully.... :ok:

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:36 pm

I have to reup "Sasquatch" for consideration.. I'd love to see one WELL DONE.

Pepsi Jedi · Unread post by **Pepsi Jedi** » Thu Feb 22, 2007 8:41 pm

Hurm. Read this thread then found the "Mythological Mutants" thread a few posts down. It has a "Yeti" but I'm not sure if that's what I'm really looking for.

It's a nice write up but I don't know that it captures the feel.. if that makes sense?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:09 pm

Joscap wrote:Has anyone done "dust-bunnys"?

Domestic home cleaners with static-attractant fur for picking up lint and dirt? Maybe spongy soft fur/skin and a metabolism that runs off of dirt and grime(disease resistant)? Cute little things, but you really don't want your kids hugging them....

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 1:29 pm

Plants! O_o
You gotta do cacti sooner or later, man!

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 9:34 pm

DUDE!
Thanks much! There was a similar writeup several years ago, but I never copied it onto my compy.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Feb 25, 2007 10:41 pm

Oh woowwwwww.....Flower Children.....

Seriously...that looks fun.

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Mon Feb 26, 2007 6:26 pm

How about various fungi, ferns, pine trees, sequoias, moss, algae, tomato plants, onions, lettuce.... ok now I want a salad lol

EDIT: lilypads, catnip, cocoa bean plants (optional chimera), dandelions....

EDIT 2: Electric Boogaloo: mosquitos, butterflies, ticks, fleas, grasshoppers, grains, corn, cotton, thistles, pistol shrimp.....

Rali · Unread post by **Rali** » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:19 am

duck-foot wrote:Plant Package

You forgot to include disadvantages that would include need for light source and susceptibility to poisons (defoliants and pesticides), or something to that effect.

You make it sound like being part plant is a bed of roses :lol:

However, I think a regenerative property would be a good inclusion for the package as well.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Feb 28, 2007 10:37 pm

alright! I had a domesticated sea-scoprpion critter for Rifts, used as a sort of shore-watch watchdog by coastal security and as an anti-zomba worm measure by fishermen, but now we have sentient forms! :ok:

abe · Unread post by **abe** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 5:19 pm

how about the common gold fish?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:18 pm

abe wrote:how about the common gold fish?

After all...they've been watching over our shoulders as we enter passswords and personal information....we think they're just fish....stuck in there...

"Oh, if I had lungs and some limbs, I could SOOOOO screw with his accounts when he isn't home..."

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 2:25 pm

How about writing up some of those gigantic, carnivorous birds from the Ice Age?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Mar 04, 2007 10:38 pm

Anybody done the Dodo? Seems like a natural for geneticists with god-complexes...Maybe Stellar's Seacow/Manatees in general?

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Mon Mar 05, 2007 6:12 pm

Plesiosaurus

Chaos · Unread post by **Chaos** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 7:11 am

taalismn wrote:Anybody done the Dodo? Seems like a natural for geneticists with god-complexes...Maybe Stellar's Seacow/Manatees in general?

Gaz did the Do-Do Heres the Link to the repost by Kuseru.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Mar 06, 2007 10:55 pm

Chaos wrote:
taalismn wrote:Anybody done the Dodo? Seems like a natural for geneticists with god-complexes...Maybe Stellar's Seacow/Manatees in general?

Gaz did the Do-Do Heres the Link to the repost by Kuseru.

Arigato....

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Thu Mar 08, 2007 8:53 pm

Dimetrodon, please

Gazirra · Unread post by **Gazirra** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:54 pm

Iguanadon, please

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 6:08 pm

Ah...a nice addition to the creepy-crawlie category!

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:42 pm

duck-foot wrote:www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anomalocaris

for a pictue of the anomalocaris

Thank you...I've seen depictions of them before, along with the other (wonderfully) bizarre worms and early psuedo-veterbrates of the time...a surrealist menagerie...

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Mar 26, 2007 10:27 pm

Wonder how the Trilobites will stack up against the horseshoe crabs?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:57 pm

hallucigenia---my father made a model of that(don't ask why)....that is one of the most APPROPRIATELY named critters of the whole bunch....

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Apr 07, 2007 11:11 pm

Ugh....anti-biotic resistant bacteria are bad enough....now they've mutated so much they talk back?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Apr 09, 2007 10:29 pm

I remember a guy who built a fullscale model of one for his museum...even posed curled up on itself, it sprawled out of his two car garage....
Wonder what his neighbors thought, upon seeing it for the first time?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed Apr 11, 2007 10:36 pm

Sorry, Duck-Foot...I just had a horrible line run through my mind...

Mutant Horse: "I'm a Morgan, of a proud line stretching back to Colonial times Before the Bomb!"
Mutant Dog: "I'm a Border Collie, known for fine bloodlines and high intelligence even before we learned how to talk....How about you?"
Mutant Bacteria: "I evolved from a strong strain of Athlete's Foot that called the SuperBowl home!"

zor_prime1 · Unread post by **zor_prime1** » Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:57 pm

Dang these are cool!

Are you using the TMNT conversion rules or other rules found somewhere? If so, where? (I won't spill your thunder, I promise)

zor_prime1 · Unread post by **zor_prime1** » Fri Apr 13, 2007 11:04 am

Whew. I went to go look at the rules in the book but couldn't find the book anywhere. And I thought I was going mad because I remembered having it. It turns out that I loaned it out.

Goblin-Jack · Unread post by **Goblin-Jack** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 6:53 am

Duckfoot, smashing work!!

I was wondering if you could write up:
1. Ivory Billed woodpecker
2. El Chupacabra
3. Thunderbirds (or giant/mega versions of birds of prey like Vultures, Owls and Eagles),
4. African Cape Buffalo
5. Aurochs

Thanks, and keep up the good work!!

--GJ.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 8:58 pm

I agree...mutant Ivory Bills could be explained as a pre-Flash attempt to create a more 'robust' version of an endangered species...an effort that drew controversy and criticism due to the ethics of creating a species through genetic engineering and claiming it to be the 'true' endangered species....

Goblin-Jack · Unread post by **Goblin-Jack** » Sun Apr 15, 2007 9:52 pm

Come to think of it, how about a mutant American Chestnut tree that is resistant to the Chestnut blight?

--GJ.

Goblin-Jack · Unread post by **Goblin-Jack** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 5:13 am

Duck foot, they look great! Just two points to bring up to you (please don't see this as criticism, I like your work!!).

1. Ivorybilled woodpeckers have very powerful beaks, so you might want to rethink the damage they do.
2. Birds don't have a sense of smell or taste, so think about the advanced smell thing.

Whatever you choose to do or not do, great work!!

--GJ.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon Apr 16, 2007 10:21 pm

Goblin-Jack wrote:Duck foot, they look great! Just two points to bring up to you (please don't see this as criticism, I like your work!!).

1. Ivorybilled woodpeckers have very powerful beaks, so you might want to rethink the damage they do.
2. Birds don't have a sense of smell or taste, so think about the advanced smell thing.

Whatever you choose to do or not do, great work!!

--GJ.

I thought they used their sense of hearing to detect grubs? Or am I thinking of the Madagascar Aye-Aye?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:24 pm

Ouch...National Socialism/Facism....that's cultural hoof-and-mouth disease....

Goblin-Jack · Unread post by **Goblin-Jack** » Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:56 pm

Taalisman, I would just recommend making that an optional vestigial trait. The men who bred the cattle weren't real Nazis (they just joined the party after 36 to continue receiving funding), and went through the post-war Nazi microscope. They were okay, and in fact one of the brothers is still alive and very much not a Nazi, so don't worry too much about that one. It can just add flair to a villain.

--GJ.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Fri Apr 20, 2007 6:28 pm

Great..I barely cleared my land of triffids, but at least this thing only eats insects...well, at least that means no more visits from that idiot next door with his 'matter transmission' experiments(really, the man is a menace at a dinner party or barbecue).

Goblin-Jack · Unread post by **Goblin-Jack** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 4:37 am

Say Duck-foot, could you do a Giant Sloth mutant?

Thanks!!

--GJ.

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sat Apr 21, 2007 9:01 pm

Will that be with or without green algae growing in its fur?

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Sun Apr 29, 2007 3:09 pm

duck-foot wrote:Giant Saw Bug (crustacean):

Alright! Thanks! :ok:

The more underwater mutants the merrier! :nuke:

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Mon May 07, 2007 10:45 pm

Yowza...a mutant that replays evolution....That's a complex concept....
"Ah, you spurn me now because I lack backbone...but seeing as I'm growing one tonight...you wanna go out with me tomorrow night?"

taalismn · Unread post by **taalismn** » Wed May 09, 2007 11:12 pm

Ah, Iguanodon...in many ways the 'original' dinosaur as it was one of the first to be reconstructed(wrongly as it turned out)....
Of course, they're now taking yet another look at how dinosaur skeletons are mounted, and they suspect they're mostly mounted/positioned wrong, especially with regards to the tail....

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