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Something I've been thinking some random thoughts about; Can a True Atlantean (Or Splugorth i suppose) Spatial Mage create a Stone Pyramid in his/her/it's Dimensional Realm, and if so, does it have any effect?

Unless they've got a ley line, they don't get the benefits of their pyramid being on a ley line.

So pyramids don't do anything unless they are specifically on a leyline?

I guess a off-shoot of that is: are leylines considered natural features, and so can be placed by the realm's creator?

I would say, in that sense of being natural features, no, they are not, otherwise, every spatial mage would fill his realm with ley lines.

Misfit KotLD wrote:

MrNexx wrote:Unless they've got a ley line, they don't get the benefits of their pyramid being on a ley line.

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Misfit KotLD wrote:

MrNexx wrote:Unless they've got a ley line, they don't get the benefits of their pyramid being on a ley line.

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MrNexx wrote:I would say, in that sense of being natural features, no, they are not, otherwise, every spatial mage would fill his realm with ley lines.

Aren't ley lines supposed to be miles apart? i'd think unless you have a huge realm you could only have one or two.

So you are saying that there is precident for magic creating a leyline? well that does shed a whole new light on things, thanks Kevin.

That's fine, Spatial mages are all about permanently sacrificing some PPE. and 100 feet is fine if that is what it is, the pyramid doesn't specify that it won't work on a short leyline does it?

There are some big ifs in this one.


If the True Atlantean Spatial Mage can recruit an NPC Nazcan Line Maker to create a ley line in the realm and if the True Atlantean Spatial Mage can recruit a Stone Wizard to create a proper stone pyramid . . . it should work. Though there may need to be points spent by the Spatial Mage to modify the realm to alow such to happen.

But we are talking about three of the rarest OCCs in the megaverse. Finding someone who would do the work (and I think the ley line needs to be there before the pyramid) would be a mini-campaign of its own.

All and all the entire concept seems to be geared towards creating an unassailable fortress of solitude - and being able to do nothing while outside of it. A boring campaign model IMHO.

Don't forget that the creation of a ley line causes EXTREMELY SEVERE spacial and magical disruption in the surrounding area.

You could make a ley line a few minutes before you collapse your entire realm into nothingness.

Jefffar wrote:All and all the entire concept seems to be geared towards creating an unassailable fortress of solitude - and being able to do nothing while outside of it. A boring campaign model IMHO.

We all have to have goals and hobbies. But in this case i think you may be mistaken, after all what is done in the realm doesn't progress the game, it is what is done outside that is the important part in my opinion; the character in question was created in light of that opinion.

Do the "Massive PPE fields of the multiverse which exist outside the pocket dimension" do anything?

No.

And a character which has permantly sacrificed 2 /3 rds of their starting PPE into creating such a fortress is obviously little concerned with what is goign on outside of it because they are leaving themselves virtually powerless to do anything outside of it.

Jefffar wrote:No.

And a character which has permantly sacrificed 2 /3 rds of their starting PPE into creating such a fortress is obviously little concerned with what is goign on outside of it because they are leaving themselves virtually powerless to do anything outside of it.

That does seem overly specific for this 'hypothetical' example it's a good thing too that things were changed and the mage in question has a little more PPE than originally planned, otherwise those CS Samas might have wrote a different story... err, is what that mage would say if he or she actually existed i'd bet.

No I don’t think pyramids will work on short ley lines that don’t go any ware. I think the whole purpose for dimensional pyramids is to harness wild magical energies and focus them. A fabricated ley line, nexus, would simply not do. You have a lovely pyramid that does nothing.

One of the optional Special Abilities of a realm is that it can be a PPE source in and of it self (Rule H, option 1). Now that your very realm creates PPE, gather some Techno-Wizards to harness that energy and store it in emeralds for you, like a giant capacitor! It may take time to build up the amount a PPE you need for a huge spell or ritual, but it can be done without a pyramid.

Otherwise, what I'd probobly do is rule that you had to spend ALL creation points (or like 80%+) to have ONE ley line running thru your realm. Then set a pyramid on it (getting stones thru to build is NP) and control that PPE flow. Essentially then your pyramid becomes a PPE capacitor. From there you should be able to accomplish anything else you need done in your realm with ease.

Good Luck

I don't know about spatial realms (not very familiar with the spatial mage at all other than I know they are in one of the early rifters). I do know that I have done something similar with a True Atlantean Astral Mage given that all TA's have a working knowledge of stone pyramid I required that the realm be on a dragon nexus with the tap ley line feature and have to cost 40 ppe to give it the powers of a Stone Pyramid. But that is what I did for Astral Realms

Astral Mages yes.

But Spatial Mages create their own littl epoket dimension rather than a realm on the Astral plane.