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Re: HU2, Protection circle superior

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:07 pm
by Tinker Dragoon
shion wrote:the spell protection circle superior, would work against mega heroes? it says that repels supernatural creatures and mega heroes are certainly supernatural creatures.


Yes, though whether a Mega-Hero/Villain counts as Lesser or Greater is unspecified.

Can you get a tattoo, a round one, and make that your protection circle? ( it will be always with you and never can be harmed if you don't lose part of the skin). Can you make it scratching the surface of a ring?


Debatable. I can't find a size limit listed, so perhaps one could make a small circle on one's own body or a small object (although the long casting time would seem to preclude this). However, while this mini-circle would keep supernatural creatures from approaching, it would not confer any of the usual bonuses, as these are only received by characters standing inside the circle.

How long is the casting time of the Spells of Legend?


Presumably the same as for spell levels 11-15.

Re: HU2, Protection circle superior

Posted: Sun Jul 08, 2007 4:42 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
Tinker Dragoon wrote:
How long is the casting time of the Spells of Legend?


Presumably the same as for spell levels 11-15.


Offically the same as levels 11-15. RUE page 189

Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:36 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
It is debatable weather or not Mega-heros are affacted by the circle of protection, becasue they are only 'concideded to be SN' not SN.

Posted: Sun Jul 29, 2007 11:52 pm
by Malakai
I would say you could go with a ring or circle tattoo, but in both cases you would only get the "repel" effect, not the bonuses, since you are not completely inside the circle.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 12:22 am
by Nekira Sudacne
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:It is debatable weather or not Mega-heros are affacted by the circle of protection, becasue they are only 'concideded to be SN' not SN.


If they're considered supernatural, but don't count for anything that affects supernatural beings, how or why are they considered supernatural?

Considered supernatural means anything that affects a supernatural being, affects them.

Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 9:25 am
by acreRake
shion wrote:If the tattoo is around your waist, is circular and you're inside of it
HAHAHAHAH! If your waist is a circle then, yeah!

/wipes away tears of helpless laughter

Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:17 am
by Borast
Ok...spanner + works time...

You have to be able to be physically inside the circle for it to work...bodily, and entirely inside the circle.
Specifically, remembering the circle diagrams and descriptions in PF, inside a specific portion of the circle!

Besides, do you really want to inject some of the ... more esoteric ... components for the circle into your skin? Can you say Septicaemia?

Loverly thing about the modern world...you can buy a marker with almost anything in it. The late Walter Lantz (?) used a pen with his own DNA in the ink.

Re: HU2, Protection circle superior

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 5:53 pm
by drewkitty ~..~

tattoo...as you stated it, No. It would be like other tattoes with a stated duration.

1min-30 min (as an incantation), to days for a ritual.

Ring....no..not with the circle magic stated in the summoner section of the PF2 mainbook.

Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 11:26 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Correction,

The convertion notes in the HU2 Book say that thay are concidered to be SN on rifts earth, not that they Are SN. So in any setting other the Rifts or PW, No it wouldn't. If on Rifts earth or PW, it is debateable

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 5:17 pm
by Tinker Dragoon
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Correction,

The convertion notes in the HU2 Book say that thay are concidered to be SN on rifts earth, not that they Are SN. So in any setting other the Rifts or PW, No it wouldn't. If on Rifts earth or PW, it is debateable[/color]


No, it says quite plainly that they're considered supernatural beings in HU. The Rifts note merely adds that they count as supernatural beings there too, and can both inflict and withstand Mega Damage.

Posted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 6:52 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
well, hummm, sence it uses those same words, "considered a supernatural being", to start off the Rifts convertion notes, and its been years sence I actully read over the MH section not making any, the misunderstanding isn't all that bad.
Though I still say that being concidered SN isn't actully being SN.

Posted: Sat Sep 08, 2007 9:42 pm
by Tinker Dragoon
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Posted: Sun Sep 09, 2007 1:11 am
by Nekira Sudacne
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Correction,

The convertion notes in the HU2 Book say that thay are concidered to be SN on rifts earth, not that they Are SN. So in any setting other the Rifts or PW, No it wouldn't. If on Rifts earth or PW, it is debateable


Question: what's the difference? if they're considered supernatural for the purposes of the rules, than things that effect the supernatural effect them.


Seriously, your stating NOTHING here.

it's the epitomie of a distinction without a difference. It's like saying an axe murderer is more or less of a muderer than a chainsaw murderer.