I just got this book the other day, have only had a chance to do a very very quick skim. But I was wondering if the humans of this world are supposed to be (or implied to be) the predecessors of the Gene-Splicers as seen in Mindwerks?
So far I gotta say I'm loving what I'm reading, this looks like it will be a fun setting.
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hmmm Now this is an interesting theory. Never thought about it. Is a possibility but is anyone guess, I can't truly say yes or not. As it is typed, Splicers coudl be the past of Wormwood, the past of the gene-splicers, heckf or what we know the Slpicer earth wille ventually become the mythological Eylor, or the demon planet, or the birthplace of the splugorth or... As you see is hard to say.
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True, it could become just about any of the strange worlds, however, as far as the Gene-Splicers go, they could be responsible for Eylor, Wormwood and many other things.
But they are masters of genetic augmentation, and I think it would be incredibly easy (even if it wasn't intended) to assume that the Splicers of that world are now the Gene-Splicers.
But they are masters of genetic augmentation, and I think it would be incredibly easy (even if it wasn't intended) to assume that the Splicers of that world are now the Gene-Splicers.
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Well in phase world was introduced a new race of gene-manipulator as well as a race of psycho-creeps who worship biotech adn consider technology heretical(i've not the book under my hand right now so i don't remember their names). And who said is not true the opposite, the origin of the bio-tech of Splcier earth is a mistery, nothing prevent the gene-splicers, or the SPlugorth or someone else has its hands, or whatever appendage it got, in it.
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The Baron of chaos wrote:Well in phase world was introduced a new race of gene-manipulator as well as a race of psycho-creeps who worship biotech adn consider technology heretical(i've not the book under my hand right now so i don't remember their names). And who said is not true the opposite, the origin of the bio-tech of Splcier earth is a mistery, nothing prevent the gene-splicers, or the SPlugorth or someone else has its hands, or whatever appendage it got, in it.
I think that is the Necron race, they hate technology
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I like the theory that this could lead to the Genesplicers! A great suggestion!
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Or as i said the gene-splicers could be BEHIND the bio-tech. Consideirng how adnvaced it is seem plausible (anyway we have to discuss about the general elvel of tech of splicer earth that is higher than it should be..both biological and robotical...)
On side note who said SPlcier earth si the past of mechanoids? They are genetical engineered uber powerfull cyborgs wiht top-non-plus-ultra robotics and great genetic knowledge(they used to improve themselves and to create slave races). We know that from their origin that after they got send into space for exploration from their creators they meet something that allowed them to improve thousand times, more than their creator wished and perhaps this something could be Splicer earth. And if their system were based on combination of NEXUS cybernetic systmer and Librarians genetic DNA...well you are not surprised they gone nuts at first chance.
On side note who said SPlcier earth si the past of mechanoids? They are genetical engineered uber powerfull cyborgs wiht top-non-plus-ultra robotics and great genetic knowledge(they used to improve themselves and to create slave races). We know that from their origin that after they got send into space for exploration from their creators they meet something that allowed them to improve thousand times, more than their creator wished and perhaps this something could be Splicer earth. And if their system were based on combination of NEXUS cybernetic systmer and Librarians genetic DNA...well you are not surprised they gone nuts at first chance.
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Maybe the splicers of Splicers RPG eventually defeat the robots, send out colony ships who land on different worlds and due to different situations each evolves into the above mentioned things. Gene-Splicers, Mechanoids, etc.
I like the idea that maybe the Gene-Splicers (or other advanced gene-hackers) are actually hiding among the Splicers and aiding them. However, I got the impression that the Gene-Splicers are evil and selfish, so I don't think that is the case.
I like the idea that maybe the Gene-Splicers (or other advanced gene-hackers) are actually hiding among the Splicers and aiding them. However, I got the impression that the Gene-Splicers are evil and selfish, so I don't think that is the case.
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This is one thing i find UNNNNERRRRRVING of SPlicer , everyoen assume that the origin of the bi-tech must be positive....apart that librarians are the proof that is not all paved of gold this road. but also the opther class, WHY THE FUNK they have to be good? Because they fight for humakind, well duh is self survival, is not like they fight for some great values. And who said the Genesplicer do that for fun. They could even be behind the machine madness.
For me the best theory is that someone provided the biotech to the splicer , is obvious (how otherwise they could have developed AFTER the nanoplague hit them? Using little chemist?) and sincelre y i dont think eve or lilith had somethign to do with it, Machine do not seem to have any highrate biological engineering lan, otherwise we would have something worst than nanomachine plague. And that The Splicers do not have clearly any idea of what they are doing, infact there is not a caste of scientist , researcher or else. Heck even medicians are RARE , with only saints , librarians and engineers doing the job. This make me suspect that the biotech has a less than "good" origin. And evil and good as such relative terms. A diabolic aline could help humankind for personal interest, while a good entity coudl want the destruction of it for a greater good. So dont be so fast in saying "no the Gene-splicer won't help humankind becasue they are evil" it depend if they have their interest in helping or not.
For me the best theory is that someone provided the biotech to the splicer , is obvious (how otherwise they could have developed AFTER the nanoplague hit them? Using little chemist?) and sincelre y i dont think eve or lilith had somethign to do with it, Machine do not seem to have any highrate biological engineering lan, otherwise we would have something worst than nanomachine plague. And that The Splicers do not have clearly any idea of what they are doing, infact there is not a caste of scientist , researcher or else. Heck even medicians are RARE , with only saints , librarians and engineers doing the job. This make me suspect that the biotech has a less than "good" origin. And evil and good as such relative terms. A diabolic aline could help humankind for personal interest, while a good entity coudl want the destruction of it for a greater good. So dont be so fast in saying "no the Gene-splicer won't help humankind becasue they are evil" it depend if they have their interest in helping or not.
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Wow....time travel...never thought bout it 
. Joke apart we assume that all bio-tech in megaverse is related, but that is like saying that all robotics have same origins. Yet in Splicers case, we know that they don't developed their bio-tech(i've already said i know) by themselves. So Is very possible a tie to some more advanced bio-tech using race. Note that generally in megaverse bio-tech is 80% EVIL or managed by EVIL beings. Only in Splicer and System Failure we see a "GOOD" bio-tech, but good is such relative thing.
. Joke apart we assume that all bio-tech in megaverse is related, but that is like saying that all robotics have same origins. Yet in Splicers case, we know that they don't developed their bio-tech(i've already said i know) by themselves. So Is very possible a tie to some more advanced bio-tech using race. Note that generally in megaverse bio-tech is 80% EVIL or managed by EVIL beings. Only in Splicer and System Failure we see a "GOOD" bio-tech, but good is such relative thing."The baron is made of raw win. Search your feelings, you know it to be true."
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Sentient life is kinda questionable, exactly what it does take to make something sentient? And even if it is sentient why we would care about its feelings if not of our own species? In Splicer Gorehound are created by modifying dogs (de facto are mutant animals). For me the Biotech is something that is a tool, but a tool that bleed and feel pain(a factor never pointed out enough times. Machiens get a signal that advice that they are damaged, biotech got pain, NEEEDED feeling , we can't live without it). You're right Evil is the result of the acitons of users, but this assuming that Splicers are automatically good, apart for RPG sake, is naive at best.
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Yes i secretely have the feeling the Machine is right.
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Yes i secretely have the feeling the Machine is right.
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Re: Gene-Splicers
LostOne wrote:I just got this book the other day, have only had a chance to do a very very quick skim. But I was wondering if the humans of this world are supposed to be (or implied to be) the predecessors of the Gene-Splicers as seen in Mindwerks?
I was reading Splicers last night and thought this exact-same-thing.