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Lord Nivarre wrote:We had a similar problem in our group..one of the players had a character which had extremely high attributes and the player loved him. The character died in the campaign and the player rolled up another character but did not get the high attributes so he intentionally committed suicide so he could roll up a better character. When he still did not get what he wanted he started to try to kamikaze the character. We as the group with the GM came up with new Experience Point Awards (and Demerits, notice the negatives).

Experience Points Table

A guide to awarding Experience Points.

Experience Point Action
Reward
Combat
-300 Unnecessary violence that gets the rest of the group in trouble.
-100-300 Unnecessary violence
0 (ZERO) Fighting to just show off, too proud to stand down, gets the rest of the group in trouble, or any stupid or selfish acts.
25-50 Killing or subduing a minor menace.
75-100 Killing or subduing a major menace
150-300 Killing or subduing a great menace
Other Actions, Reasoning & Role-Playing
-5000 Actions which get other player’s killed or seriously harmed, per character penalty. (Applies to next three characters)
-2000 Actions which get party NPC’s members killed or seriously. (Applies to next character also)
-1000 Committing Suicide (Applies to next character)
-200 Actions which endanger another character’s life and or a few comrades.
-100 Stupid or shellfish act which endangers characters own life.
-10-25 Not thinking before acting
-25 Bad judgment
10-25 Performing a skill (successful or not)
25 Clever, but futile idea
100 Clever, useful idea or action.
100 Quick thinking idea or action
200 A critical plan or action that saves the character’s life and or a few comrades.
400-1000 Critical plan or action that saves the entire group or many people.
50-100 small act of self-sacrifice (not putting the character’s life in any real danger), or an act of kindness, mercy or compassion.
100-300 Endangering the character’s own life to help others.
500-700 Self-sacrifice (or potential self- sacrifice) in a life and death situation (like leaping in front of a laser blast meant for someone else to save that person, even though he/she is likely to die, or offering his/her own life to save the group or another). Odds are the character really will die.
50-100 Avoiding unnecessary violence
100-200 Deductive reasoning and/or insight.
50 Good judgment
50 Good role-playing
50-100 Playing in character when it would have been easier not too.
75-150 Playing in alignment when circumstances or powerful temptation begged otherwise.
50-100 Daring or heroic (whether clever or not)
Character creation and other stuff
-100 Cheating on die rolls. (per roll) Only GM can change the die!

Traek wrote:

Marcethus wrote:Exactly as a GM as well I reward players for creative thinking and stuff if they do something stupid the player will suffer the consequences of the actions if that players actions causes harm against the other PC's they are free to act in character to do whatever their character's personality sees fit. without me interfering in it. Alot of those penalties in there especially the not standing down and down right selfish one is wrong in my opinion, after all what is the Anarchist alignment for or Unprincipled but Selfish Characters? So in closing I would say that if a player is being overly suicidal in your games talk to the player tell him you are running a hyper realistic game. Let him know that the Action Movie stunts could get him killed. Then if he continues doing so let him suffer the consequences. Both from NPC's and from the other players. But penalizing EXP is always bad form.

Also I don't use any sort of EXP chart when I give out exp I just give out what I feel that the players have earned for the session. though I do use the chart as a basis for stuff but not overly so.

I personally think it's good to give your players a very good idea of what kind of behavior will get them experience. Having GM'd several different groups over the past almost 15 years, it's very easy to get into "lazy GM behavior" and assign "what you feel" they earned. Many times the contributions made 6-10 hours earlier in a session will go forgotten (or at least of dimineshed importance). It's far more fair to players to commit not only to keeping the plot moving, but also the score board up-to-date. Imagine what would happen in a basketball game if they did something similar.

Traek wrote:Make him play instead what he really wants to: that crappy Shadowrun video game that came out recently and kick his **** out of the group.

rearnakedchoke wrote:

Lord Nivarre wrote:-300 Unnecessary violence that gets the rest of the group in trouble.
-100-300 Unnecessary violence
0 (ZERO) Fighting to just show off, too proud to stand down, gets the rest of the group in trouble, or any stupid or selfish acts.
-5000 Actions which get other player’s killed or seriously harmed, per character penalty. (Applies to next three characters)
-2000 Actions which get party NPC’s members killed or seriously. (Applies to next character also)
-1000 Committing Suicide (Applies to next character)
-200 Actions which endanger another character’s life and or a few comrades.
-100 Stupid or shellfish act which endangers characters own life.
-10-25 Not thinking before acting
-25 Bad judgment
-100 Cheating on die rolls. (per roll) Only GM can change the die!

Everything I read about this just makes the players only play something you want them to, not what they want to.