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Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 12:57 pm
by AzathothXy
I have never seen it. As far I can recall you can pick any two elements, opposite or not.

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 8:35 pm
by Library Ogre
There's never been such a restriction that I can recall. The note in 1st edition PF about it has an example of a fire/air, but it doesn't forbid them. Neither does 2nd edition.

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:03 am
by Glistam
The Tome of Magic for D&D 2nd Edition allowed elemental mages. Maybe it was there you saw a limitation for this sort of comination?

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 11:24 am
by Library Ogre
Zerebus wrote:I kid you not, this is how I've dealt with warlocks for over a decade. Air-Earth and Fire-Water were the two unallowable combinations.


I don't doubt you, and it makes a degree of sense, but it's not the RAW.

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:02 pm
by drewkitty ~..~
Warlocks can't chose opposite elemental signs, and still be warlocks.

If they do, they are the Elemental fusionist class.

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Tue Oct 14, 2008 10:05 pm
by Library Ogre
drewkitty ~..~ wrote:Warlocks can't chose opposite elemental signs, and still be warlocks.

If they do, they are the Elemental fusionist class.


Point to it.

Re: On Dual Sign Warlocks with Opposite Elemental Lords

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 2:10 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
Warlocks could always pick opposing signs. Sorry Zerb. it never says, ANYWHERE, that you can't pick opposing signs. You just assumed that and it was never backed up by anything, ever.

Elemental Fusionists are not warlocks and never were.

Warlocks make a deal with elemental lords for power.

Elemental Fusionists learn how to control elemental forces on their own, regardless of Elemental Intelligences.

you can certainly be a fire/water or Earth/Air warlock, it has no bearing on the Fusionist class. The dual-signed warlock still won't get the unique fusion powers that mix the elements, only able to use spells from one or the other at a given time. and Eelemental fusionists will still have less overall mastery of the elements than the ones who make a pact with a higher power for it.