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Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 1:33 pm
by Talavar
Adult dragons are meant to be the pinnacles of creatures of magic - that makes them closer to demon lords & gods than the run of the mill demon.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 10:28 pm
by csbioborg
imo it is becasue dragons are overpowered not that devils are underpowered.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Mon Dec 29, 2008 8:37 pm
by Khanibal
I don't remember where any of the material implied that demons/deevils were supposed to be the be all/end all of villians. As the only Palladium game I've encountered them in is Rifts, my understanding was that they were feared mostly because of their numbers. Whereas dragons have always been equating as near-godlike power levels. Dragons even have the respect of the splugorth in ways that d/d's can only dream.
As an aside, are they planning on publishing a book on the hosts of light? It would be interesting to see some counterpoint to their current cut 'n' paste marketing plan.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:12 pm
by Nekira Sudacne
Lesser demons are just that-lesser. They wreak havoc amoung non-powered non-MDC armed humans like the plauge.
go to a village where there's maybe 2 guys with L-20 laser rifles and Hutsman armor in a 40 mile radius. That Succubus is suddenly a lot more useful.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:11 am
by AzathothXy
Rogue_Scientist wrote:There are demons who are still quite powerful. Raksashas come immediately to mind, as creatures with thousands of MDC, magic, and full psionics, but there are others.
That was a mistake fixed in later books, Raksasha have 1D6x100+500 MDC(as opposed to the 1D6x1000+500 they used to). Now, the Maggots, they still have 1D4x1000 MDC.
The Deevils? None over 1000. Sorry Mephisto.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Wed Dec 31, 2008 9:00 pm
by Khanibal
I think the biggest problem you're having is with the M.D.C. Compare the gargoyles attributes, P.P.E. and magic knowledge, their I.S.P. and psionic ability, and lastly their natural abilities to other demons.
Just because "The Fridge" (former Chicago Bears football player famous for his size) is a big dude, doesn't make him more qualified to run I.B.M.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Fri Jan 02, 2009 7:47 am
by AzathothXy
What are the chances the Deevil Lord Antipator makes a comeback in the new Dyval book?
There is only a small amount of info about him, but he sounded cool. A full write up on him at full power would be cool.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 9:25 pm
by AlanGunhouse
Demons and devils are not only dangerous because they are tough, but also because they are clever. A smart creature can beat raw power, or else why don't elephants run the world?
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:29 pm
by AzathothXy
AlanGunhouse wrote:Demons and devils are not only dangerous because they are tough, but also because they are clever. A smart creature can beat raw power, or else why don't elephants run the world?
They do.But they let us enjoy the illusion that we run things.
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:14 am
by Nekira Sudacne
AzathothXy wrote:AlanGunhouse wrote:Demons and devils are not only dangerous because they are tough, but also because they are clever. A smart creature can beat raw power, or else why don't elephants run the world?
They do.But they let us enjoy the illusion that we run things.
You are in violation of Article 12, section 423 of the Overlords Associates Program. Further communication about elephants will result in revocation of all privleges under section B12(a).
Re: Deevils and Demons why so little MDC?
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 5:14 am
by AzathothXy
Nekira Sudacne wrote:AzathothXy wrote:AlanGunhouse wrote:Demons and devils are not only dangerous because they are tough, but also because they are clever. A smart creature can beat raw power, or else why don't elephants run the world?
They do.But they let us enjoy the illusion that we run things.
You are in violation of Article 12, section 423 of the Overlords Associates Program. Further communication about elephants will result in revocation of all privleges under section B12(a).
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